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Traveling - China & SKorea

22 durable postsStarted 2010-11-30Latest 2010-12-13
#90537Post 1 of 22

I'm going to Hong Kong for work in early Spring (March or April) and plan to follow it with a brief holiday in China & SKorea. A few weeks ago I was contemplating taking a short tour of N Korea as well, but I've decided to hold off for obvious reasons.

I want to spend a few days in Hong Kong, then I'd like to travel to a more rural area of China. My final week will be spent in S. Korea where I'll visit Seoul & a friend who lives in Jeon Ju.

Any suggestions for stuff to do in Hong Kong & Seoul (sightseeing, nightlife, etc.)? And what about rural destinations worth visiting in China (i.e. cultural, nature)?

Any and all advice is appreciate, -Michael

#1436385Post 2 of 22

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in seoul, there's a couple of good clubs: eden in gangnam and volume in itaewon. gyeongbuokgung palace has a crash course on some korean culture and history and is pretty cheap. hit up yongsan for the largest electronics market in east asia. insa-dong is where lots of the korean traditional crafts are sold, they're overpriced, but you can get some cool shit like north korean soldier badges. sinchon, hongdae and gangnam are where you party if you want to meet college girls who want private english lessons in love hotels.

depending on when you come, it might be yellow dust season. so be prepared to have your lungs raped by china's pollution. tours to the DMZ are still running as far as I know.

anyway, let me know when you're in seoul

#1436465Post 3 of 22

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Michael, long time! Awesome, you're going to Korea! For nightlife, you'll def want to hit up the Hongdae district (my fav place) and you'll immediately see that the crowd that hangs out in Hongdae are diff from the other districts - they're spunky hip. Gangnam (or Kangnam) has mega clubs where they do Korean style "booking" (google it). In Hongdae, there are many smaller clubs anchored by a few big ones. My info is old so I can't guarantee accuracy but I went to a club called Museum in 08 and M2 in 04. Those are the big ones. Then there are smaller ones. I've also had some great times at club M.I., Joker Red, and MWG (Myungwolgwan). Seoul really has a great nightlife with fantastic music. I also enjoyed some great underground hiphop at NB (caught DJ Krush there one time). These are all in Hongdae. If you can, time your trip on the last weekend of the month where on Friday of the last week, there's an event called Club Day in Hongdae where you can buy a pass to hop from club to club. You can read more about it here: [URL="http://www.koreaherald.com/lifestyle/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20090821000076"]http://www.koreaherald.com/lifestyle/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20090821000076[/URL] Dude, 21 clubs!!!! They've been doing it for quite some time. I did it in 02 and it was awesome.

Other things in Seoul - Dongdaemun, Myeongdong, and Nandaemun for shopping (if you go to Nandaemun during afterhours on weekends, you see lots of outdoor stalls (called pojangmacha) for food and drinks - it's awesome), Seoul Tower on Mt. Namsun or 63 Building, ferry ride on the Han River, Gangnam for drinking and eating, Shinchon for drinking and eating (visit Yonsae univ campus if you want), Ehwa womens univ area (aka Iidae) for shopping that's a bit diff from the other shopping districts, Gyeongbokgung palace, Insadong for old cultural stuff (you should go to a restaurant where they serve royal king's food), Korean War museum (def recommended), Noryangjin for fresh seafood (if ou don't make it down to Busan) that you buy at the market and eat at any of the many restaurants that will prepare the fish for you (go with a local so they can haggle) etc. There's tons to do and it's cheap. And beware of the green bottle. If will seriously mess you up if you're too loose with it. There's also the Folk Village which is a little outside of Seoul. If you like to gamble you can go to Walker Hill casino or Seven Luck casino (make sure to take your passport). If you have a friend with military access, then ask for entrance into the US base in Itaewon. Lots of ppl also like going to Coex mall... a gigantic... well, mall. If you're into amusement parks, there's Lotte World.

One thing that I'll recommend is to study up on the city/country that you're visiting before you get there (buy necessary guidebooks, hit internet sites for tourism) and also search for expat forums. Those have a wealth of local info that you wouldn't be able to get here. Do pick up maps at the airport (for Seoul, pick up a free copy of Beetle Map).

Have fun! Message me on FB if you have any questions. I'm not on MS regularly so I may miss it.

#1436494Post 4 of 22

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go to hong kong island.

keep an eye out for whos playing, try volar.

otherwise if u like fancy "in" bars there dragon eye.

otherwise in that zone there is a hundred and one bars/restaurants toget hammered in

#1436578Post 5 of 22

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I hear North Korea is nice this time of year.

#1436634Post 6 of 22

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^Great snowboarding

#1436640Post 7 of 22

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I can't say Korea is a place I would want to be visiting right now with so much up in the air after the recent firings between N and S Korea...

#1436736Post 8 of 22

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[SIZE="4"][B]@ tiddles[/B][/SIZE]: thanks for the advice. gyeongbuokgung looks like a must, especially after reading more about it on wikipedia. I'll definitely be looking up those clubs and the electronic market you mentioned. I've been reading a lot about the DMZ tours, but what's drawn my attention the most are the tours to Kaesong. [url]http://www.northkorea1on1.com/cities.cfm?cid=kaesong[/url] has a 1 and 2 day tour for a reasonable price. I'm not drawn to NKorea for any particular reason except for the fact that it will be a very interesting & unusual experience. Do you have any knowledge of these types of tours to Kaesong?

[SIZE="4"][b]@ djkix[/b][/SIZE]: Hey Kihun, thanks for chiming in--I was planning to get a hold of you one way or another. Your advice last time around proved to be invaluable!

I definitely like hearing that the nightlife & music in Seoul is good. I'm going to start googling the places on your list this week. I'll have 4-5 nights around JeonJu followed by another 4-5 nights in Seoul. I'm thinking that sightseeing & shopping during the day and partying up each night will be my routine. I'm also really looking forward to the food there, I have heard many good things--especially about the fresh & 'still moving' octopus. I've learned that eating in Asia is worth the trip there alone. I doubt I'll have time to go to Busan, but I'll be sure to make a trip to the Noryangjin fish market. Is it similar to the Tokyo fish markets? Do they eat the same type of dishes? Is sushi popular? Sashimi?

Booking clubs? Now after reading up on this it seems a bit odd. Are all clubs like this? Have you done this before--what's your opinion? Also, what is the green bottle you're referring to?

Anyways, I appreciate the advice. As I go through your list of suggestions I'm sure I'll have some more questions. My friend from Jeon Ju will probably be going to Seoul with me as well, so it will be nice to have someone familiar with the city showing me around for once.

Nice to hear from you, I'll keep in touch! -Michael

[SIZE="4"][B]@ Dhar[/B][/SIZE] Thanks for the info. Hong Kong island looks massive. After looking at its myspace page, Volar looks like it draws some quality DJs. It says it's a 'members only' club. Do you know what this means?

#1436761Post 9 of 22

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You might get some useful info about the cuisines in Korea from this episode of "Bizarre Foods."

[video=youtube;V6BNAx3mC2o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6BNAx3mC2o[/video]

[video=youtube;wySH97FsuVQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wySH97FsuVQ[/video]

[video=youtube;IV3EKe2U1Fo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV3EKe2U1Fo[/video]

[video=youtube;VkZs5OYA5NA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkZs5OYA5NA[/video]

[video=youtube;cEAwGc7C9hw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEAwGc7C9hw[/video]

#1436816Post 10 of 22

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;909122]You might get some useful info about the cuisines in Korea from this episode of "Bizarre Foods." [/QUOTE]

Hey John, thanks for the post. The moving octopus in video 1 is exactly what I'm talking about. I think that has got to be a lot of fun to eat.

#1436819Post 11 of 22

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^Your welcome, also watch video #5. That's the other video with specific restaurants and it even shows how locals search the internet for those hard to find restaurants with the best food, like BBQ'd eel.

I'm going to try Kimchi thanks to these vids :lol:

#1436877Post 12 of 22

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Noryangjin is where you can find the octopus. it's pretty tasty. I don't know anything about Kaesong, it sounds like soemthing a friend of mine did though.

The booking clubs are pretty stupid for foreigners IMO. The places that get international DJs are just like western clubs, dress nice and don't look like you're in the army and they'll let you in no problem. The bars in hongdae/sinchon have some decent hiphop bars, too.

[url]http://partyluv.com/[/url] has got most of the club listings, but they usually only book stuff 3 -4 weeks in advance. Eden is the best club in Seoul for house/techno IMO. Foreign Djs usually place from 2-4/5am. I just missed François K's gig a few weeks ago :( Diggers and sasha both came through last year and are due for a come back sometime soonish hopefully.

the green bottle is Soju ;) it hurts

#1437538Post 13 of 22

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[QUOTE=pr0ficient;909094]

[SIZE="4"][B]@ Dhar[/B][/SIZE] Thanks for the info. Hong Kong island looks massive. After looking at its myspace page, Volar looks like it draws some quality DJs. It says it's a 'members only' club. Do you know what this means?[/QUOTE]

It usually means just that ... you either get a member to bring you in, or you tell them you want a table which costs a lot of money 'cos that means you'll be buying bottles of alcohol ...

Which part of China are you visiting?

#1437620Post 14 of 22

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[QUOTE=feather;910042]It usually means just that ... you either get a member to bring you in, or you tell them you want a table which costs a lot of money 'cos that means you'll be buying bottles of alcohol ...

Which part of China are you visiting?[/QUOTE]

I have a few days of work in Hong Kong, Jinan, and/or Shanghai.

Then for holiday, I'm thinking Hong Kong, Guilin (and the surrounding scenic areas), and maybe Shanghai if I have time. Hong Kong is a definite, but the rest is still up in the air. I keep reading great things about Guilin, and I especially like the fact that it's only a short flight from Hong Kong. As much as I'd like to go to more rural areas, I don't have enough time to waste 10-20hrs on a bus or train.

Have you been to Hong Kong? How does it compare to Shanghai? I love mega cities, and while I'd like to visit the most populated city in the world, if I had to pick between the two I'd probably go with Hong Kong. It just looks so beautiful, vibrant, & exciting!

#1437622Post 15 of 22

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Great stuff Michael. Never been to either myself so i can't offer much in the way of advice. Just hope you have a great time which i'm sure you will.

Travel well and good luck mate.

#1437635Post 16 of 22

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[quote=jenks;908893]i hear north korea is nice this time of year.[/quote]

hahahaha

#1437720Post 17 of 22

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[QUOTE=pr0ficient;910148]I have a few days of work in Hong Kong, Jinan, and/or Shanghai.

Then for holiday, I'm thinking Hong Kong, Guilin (and the surrounding scenic areas), and maybe Shanghai if I have time. Hong Kong is a definite, but the rest is still up in the air. I keep reading great things about Guilin, and I especially like the fact that it's only a short flight from Hong Kong. As much as I'd like to go to more rural areas, I don't have enough time to waste 10-20hrs on a bus or train.

Have you been to Hong Kong? How does it compare to Shanghai? I love mega cities, and while I'd like to visit the most populated city in the world, if I had to pick between the two I'd probably go with Hong Kong. It just looks so beautiful, vibrant, & exciting![/QUOTE]

Guilin looks nice, colleague just went. They put on this crazy light show on the river at night which feels a bit over the top and commercialised for such a tranquil scenic-looking place, but otherwise worth checking out. I can get details of where my colleague stayed if you want.

Another rural area you could check out is Moganshan, two friends have stayed at [URL="http://www.nakedretreats.cn/"]this place[/URL] and the [URL="http://www.nakedretreats.cn/photo_gallery"]pics[/URL] look good too.

Err yeah between HK or SH I'd pick HK too.

#1438084Post 18 of 22

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Seoul is amazing. Make sure you find the best Korean BBQ's! The W hotel is very very very cool - they played the Burial album at breakfast

#1438246Post 19 of 22

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[QUOTE=feather;910272]Guilin looks nice, colleague just went. They put on this crazy light show on the river at night which feels a bit over the top and commercialised for such a tranquil scenic-looking place, but otherwise worth checking out. I can get details of where my colleague stayed if you want.

Another rural area you could check out is Moganshan, two friends have stayed at [URL="http://www.nakedretreats.cn/"]this place[/URL] and the [URL="http://www.nakedretreats.cn/photo_gallery"]pics[/URL] look good too.

Err yeah between HK or SH I'd pick HK too.[/QUOTE]

Great info. The photos from Moganshan are great, especially the album titled 'Moganshan Nature' --quite breathtaking. I will have to look into this place, it doesn't look too far from Hong Kong. And the eco-friendly hotel also looks very cool & just my style!

And you're right about Guilin being a heavy tourist spot. However, I keep reading that there are many tranquil places that can be reached an hour or two outside of the city. For instance, Longji is suppose to be pretty amazing and it's only 100km away from Guilin City:

[IMG]http://www.chinatour2u.com/images/longji-terrace1.jpg[/IMG]

#1438731Post 20 of 22

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Hi Michael, about your follow-up questions on Korea... Noryangjin is the sea food market in Seoul. You can get there via train; there is a noryangjin stop. It's like Tsukiji although nowhere as big. There are many live fish, mollusks, and crustaceans there. Korean's love sashimi but interestingly they don't have the same appetite for sushi and you don't see as many sushi shops there compared to Japan. They have their own way of eating sashimi (in addition to the Japanese way which they also eat) - which is to dip it in the red hot chili bean paste by itself or as part of a bowl dish called hwedupbab - it's like a raw fish version of bibimbab. Pics here: [URL="http://korean-cuisine.blogspot.com/2008/08/hwe-dup-bap-rice-mixed-with-sashimi.html"]http://korean-cuisine.blogspot.com/2008/08/hwe-dup-bap-rice-mixed-with-sashimi.html[/URL] I personally don't enjoy them much as say a bowl of chirashi b/c they use such strong condiments (hot bean paste and sesame oil) to mild fish... it's hard to taste the fish. It's still yummy though.

Anyway, you can check out my FB pics videos of just Noryangjin. You'll definitely want to go there with a big group if you can manage... at least 4 ppl. So here's how it goes - you'll walk down the market and pick a vendor out of the hundreds that are there. There's a lot of window shopping before you pick a place. Then you will haggle, haggle, haggle, get them to throw in freebies, etc. So it's really important to take a native with you who can do that for you. Depending on the number of ppl you have, you can buy one big live fish (e.g., flounder, sea bass), and get other smaller sides like live shrimp, abalone, live octopus (san nakji), sea squirts (mungae), and yes, even the "penis fish" (youtube it). On my trip there, we ended up getting 1 flounder, 1 sea bass, 8 small live octopus, 10 live shrimp, 3 abalone, a few sea squirts and one penis fish (thrown in free just for kicks) for 120,000 won, or roughly $90 (in 2008 ) which fed 8 people! So after you come to a deal, they'll cut the fish for you right there and there. Meanwhile, they'll call one of the restaurants located right above and next to the market to confirm seating where you can have your meal. The table charge to the restaurant is only 2000 won ($1.75) per person. There they will give you a table, finish preparing all the other stuff you bought (like octopus, shrimp, etc), give you plates of banchan (sides like kimchi, bean sprouts, etc), fresh veggies, rice, etc. At the end of your meal, they'll bring out haemultang which is a spicy soup made with the leftovers from your fish (head, bones, leftover meat) with veggies... yummy! It's such a good deal and fantastic eating. Very different from Japanese way of eating fish but that's why they are different. The beauty of different cultures, even when next door is astounding. Enjoy it man.

Other things - The only time I've seen an eel bbq in Korea was when I took a trip to a city called Jinju BUT that's not to say Seoul doesn't have them so look for them... I would love to try some eel bbq... I'm already drooling. Also standard are other typical Korean places - Galbi (Korean short rib bbq), samgyupssal (pork belly bbq), dak-galbi (chicken bbq), soondoobu (tofu soup), naengmyun (cold buckwheat/potato flour noodles), samgaetang (Korean chicken soup), kimbab (rice rolls with different stuffings - great hangover food or late night snack), etc. You may also want to try boshintang (dog soup) and bundaegi (boiled silk worm pupa) for kicks. For boshintang, it's not like you can just stroll into any restaurant and order a poodle. There are specialty restaurants that serve this and the breed of dog is specific. Bundaegi, you'll often see them at street vendors in Dongdaemun or any other popular shopping districts - they give off a peculiar odor and you'll know it when you're near one. I tried it once... put one in my mouth, chewed it, but could not swallow it... the natives there eat them like an afternoon snack (literally).

Booking clubs are one of those exclusive Korean guy things. You basically get a table or a private room, order bunch of seriously overpriced drinks and fruit platters, and the club hosts will pick out girls from the floor and bring them to you. Then they sit with you for awhile, you talk and drink with them (keep in mind you're paying for the whole thing - girls typically never pay in Korea)... if they like you, they may stay, if they don't, they'll get up and leave. These girls are other club guests, they are not paid employees or anything. Now as for whether you should go there... well I don't know. I for one have never seen a foreign guy at a booking club and they may not even let you in. If you do get in, language barrier will keep most girls away, plus you're going to drop a huge stash of cash. There's no going in and out of one of these places for cheap. You'll spend a good $300-400+ (and that's being cheap) for your table. With the Korean GDP being so much lower than other industrialized countries, I don't see how some of the guys do it... but they do. As for the music, well it's mostly Korean dance songs, western hip hop, and western dance.

But never fear, aside from the booking clubs, there are plethora of great clubs that have that underground vibe and great music, great crowd. Koreans don't bump and grind like you see in the US (but then you typically see that in cheesy top-40 type clubs anyway, not at DJ events)... although, don't get scared if you see 2 guys getting awfully close on the dance floor... but they're not gay...lol.

#1438745Post 21 of 22

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[QUOTE=djkix;911549] So here's how it goes - you'll walk down the market and pick a vendor out of the hundreds that are there. There's a lot of window shopping before you pick a place. Then you will haggle, haggle, haggle, get them to throw in freebies, etc. So it's really important to take a native with you who can do that for you. Depending on the number of ppl you have, you can buy one big live fish (e.g., flounder, sea bass), and get other smaller sides like live shrimp, abalone, live octopus (san nakji), sea squirts (mungae), and yes, even the "penis fish" (youtube it). On my trip there, we ended up getting 1 flounder, 1 sea bass, 8 small live octopus, 10 live shrimp, 3 abalone, a few sea squirts and one penis fish (thrown in free just for kicks) for 120,000 won, or roughly $90 (in 2008 ) which fed 8 people! So after you come to a deal, they'll cut the fish for you right there and there. Meanwhile, they'll call one of the restaurants located right above and next to the market to confirm seating where you can have your meal. The table charge to the restaurant is only 2000 won ($1.75) per person. There they will give you a table, finish preparing all the other stuff you bought (like octopus, shrimp, etc), give you plates of banchan (sides like kimchi, bean sprouts, etc), fresh veggies, rice, etc. At the end of your meal, they'll bring out haemultang which is a spicy soup made with the leftovers from your fish (head, bones, leftover meat) with veggies... yummy! It's such a good deal and fantastic eating. Very different from Japanese way of eating fish but that's why they are different. The beauty of different cultures, even when next door is astounding. Enjoy it man.[/QUOTE]

That seems so awesome.

#1442301Post 22 of 22

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[QUOTE=djkix;911549]Hi Michael, about your follow-up questions on Korea... Noryangjin is the sea food market in Seoul. You can get there via train; there is a noryangjin stop. It's like Tsukiji although nowhere as big. There are many live fish, mollusks, and crustaceans there. Korean's love sashimi but interestingly they don't have the same appetite for sushi and you don't see as many sushi shops there compared to Japan. They have their own way of eating sashimi (in addition to the Japanese way which they also eat) - which is to dip it in the red hot chili bean paste by itself or as part of a bowl dish called hwedupbab - it's like a raw fish version of bibimbab. Pics here: [URL="http://korean-cuisine.blogspot.com/2008/08/hwe-dup-bap-rice-mixed-with-sashimi.html"]http://korean-cuisine.blogspot.com/2008/08/hwe-dup-bap-rice-mixed-with-sashimi.html[/URL] I personally don't enjoy them much as say a bowl of chirashi b/c they use such strong condiments (hot bean paste and sesame oil) to mild fish... it's hard to taste the fish. It's still yummy though.

Anyway, you can check out my FB pics videos of just Noryangjin. You'll definitely want to go there with a big group if you can manage... at least 4 ppl. So here's how it goes - you'll walk down the market and pick a vendor out of the hundreds that are there. There's a lot of window shopping before you pick a place. Then you will haggle, haggle, haggle, get them to throw in freebies, etc. So it's really important to take a native with you who can do that for you. Depending on the number of ppl you have, you can buy one big live fish (e.g., flounder, sea bass), and get other smaller sides like live shrimp, abalone, live octopus (san nakji), sea squirts (mungae), and yes, even the "penis fish" (youtube it). On my trip there, we ended up getting 1 flounder, 1 sea bass, 8 small live octopus, 10 live shrimp, 3 abalone, a few sea squirts and one penis fish (thrown in free just for kicks) for 120,000 won, or roughly $90 (in 2008 ) which fed 8 people! So after you come to a deal, they'll cut the fish for you right there and there. Meanwhile, they'll call one of the restaurants located right above and next to the market to confirm seating where you can have your meal. The table charge to the restaurant is only 2000 won ($1.75) per person. There they will give you a table, finish preparing all the other stuff you bought (like octopus, shrimp, etc), give you plates of banchan (sides like kimchi, bean sprouts, etc), fresh veggies, rice, etc. At the end of your meal, they'll bring out haemultang which is a spicy soup made with the leftovers from your fish (head, bones, leftover meat) with veggies... yummy! It's such a good deal and fantastic eating. Very different from Japanese way of eating fish but that's why they are different. The beauty of different cultures, even when next door is astounding. Enjoy it man.

Other things - The only time I've seen an eel bbq in Korea was when I took a trip to a city called Jinju BUT that's not to say Seoul doesn't have them so look for them... I would love to try some eel bbq... I'm already drooling. Also standard are other typical Korean places - Galbi (Korean short rib bbq), samgyupssal (pork belly bbq), dak-galbi (chicken bbq), soondoobu (tofu soup), naengmyun (cold buckwheat/potato flour noodles), samgaetang (Korean chicken soup), kimbab (rice rolls with different stuffings - great hangover food or late night snack), etc. You may also want to try boshintang (dog soup) and bundaegi (boiled silk worm pupa) for kicks. For boshintang, it's not like you can just stroll into any restaurant and order a poodle. There are specialty restaurants that serve this and the breed of dog is specific. Bundaegi, you'll often see them at street vendors in Dongdaemun or any other popular shopping districts - they give off a peculiar odor and you'll know it when you're near one. I tried it once... put one in my mouth, chewed it, but could not swallow it... the natives there eat them like an afternoon snack (literally).

Booking clubs are one of those exclusive Korean guy things. You basically get a table or a private room, order bunch of seriously overpriced drinks and fruit platters, and the club hosts will pick out girls from the floor and bring them to you. Then they sit with you for awhile, you talk and drink with them (keep in mind you're paying for the whole thing - girls typically never pay in Korea)... if they like you, they may stay, if they don't, they'll get up and leave. These girls are other club guests, they are not paid employees or anything. Now as for whether you should go there... well I don't know. I for one have never seen a foreign guy at a booking club and they may not even let you in. If you do get in, language barrier will keep most girls away, plus you're going to drop a huge stash of cash. There's no going in and out of one of these places for cheap. You'll spend a good $300-400+ (and that's being cheap) for your table. With the Korean GDP being so much lower than other industrialized countries, I don't see how some of the guys do it... but they do. As for the music, well it's mostly Korean dance songs, western hip hop, and western dance.

But never fear, aside from the booking clubs, there are plethora of great clubs that have that underground vibe and great music, great crowd. Koreans don't bump and grind like you see in the US (but then you typically see that in cheesy top-40 type clubs anyway, not at DJ events)... although, don't get scared if you see 2 guys getting awfully close on the dance floor... but they're not gay...lol.[/QUOTE]

Great information. I just got done looking at your photos of Noryangjin. Wow, this looks awesome, pretty massive as well. You guys have so much amazing looking food on that table on some of the last photos in the album, it's got me drooling. This place is going to be a must! I love sashimi, but it is interesting about the hot paste instead of something more bland like soy sauce. I wasn't aware that Korean food had such an emphasis on spicy & hot flavors? I know this is especially true with SEA countries, and while I do love both sea food and spicy foods, it does seem to be quite of a contrast to its neighboring states.

Should I be going to Noryangjin early morning, like everyone does at Tsukiji? (6am)

I just youtube'd penis fish btw. holy shit man, I don't know if I could handle that. Maybe cooked, but I dunno about raw! Eel BBQ, now this is something I'll have to look into. Eel has become one of my favorite fishes to eat.

Also, I would like to give dog a try. Is poodle the primary type of dog available there? This shit totally freaks people out over here, but I don't get the big deal. I wouldn't slaughter a dog and eat it, but if I'm in Korea why not try it if it's on the menu? I couldn't imagine it tastes different than the dozen other mammals that I'm familiar with. Did you spit it out b/c of the taste or just b/c it was dog? (I'm waiting for someone on [ms] to blast me for saying this)

Booking clubs, definitely not my cup of tea then. If I'm scouting down girls, it will definitely be somewhere more appealing.

Thanks again for the information.

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