holy shitballs batman.

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: this thing is fucking huge. beds and chairs in first class. restaurant. pool tables. shops, bars. wow. new way to fly.

[img]http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/BUSINESS/01/18/airbus.380/story.exterior2.ap.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/BUSINESS/01/18/airbus.380/story.interior2.ap.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/BUSINESS/01/18/airbus.380/story.interior1.ap.jpg[/img]

it looks like a blimp with wings..

yeah i was watchin the unleashing in france on sky news in work...its fukin awesome...hope it never crashs with a full load of 800+ on it ouchh

now that is how to fly. I wonder how much it cost to fly first class on this though?

stupid invention imo :roll:

[quote=rewing3]now that is how to fly. I wonder how much it cost to fly first class on this though?[/quote]

from the weight of the 747 to this and the comparable increase in total passengers, it seems it should be cheaper, but you know marketing.

there was an article in gq a couple of month's ago.... a bunch of asain airlines are doing this over the top first class with sleep chamber like quarters

[quote=scottpuig]there was an article in gq a couple of month's ago.... a bunch of asain airlines are doing this over the top first class with sleep chamber like quarters[/quote]

hey, where's that Sasha set? :roll:

their planes have a very safe track record compared to Boeing, so I'm pretty sure they're going to keep it that way with quality planes. Singapore airlines gets the first batch in 06. Quality planes for quality airlines.

[url]http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/15987572?source=Evening%20Standard&ct=5[/url]

if anyone is interested...

looks like a flying entertaining complex from the inside 11 billion dollars to make this, uhh, there's a lot of money invested in this thing, they must be sure they will hit the market with this giant

Wonder what the the load times will be like. The 747 takes about an 1hr to board. I can't begin to imagine how long it would take.

that plane is unbelievable!! casino, gym?? wow obiously Branson is behind it :RockOn:

Where are the nice big pictures?

i saw a special on this on dscovery channel last year....pretty cool IMO start partying when you get on the plane ...

2 major plane manufacturers are grabbing the market.

Embreer (sp?) & airbus.

[quote=Balanc3]Wonder what the the load times will be like. The 747 takes about an 1hr to board. I can't begin to imagine how long it would take.[/quote]

The long-term plan is to build entirely new double-decker gates so that both levels are boarded simultaneously. The major international airports that would be hosting this plane need to do a lot of work to accomodate something quite so large. This means new runways, new gates, new jetways, etc.

Initially I think this plane will do amazing things for cargo shipping. Time will tell which of the two giant manufacturers' gambles pays off. Boeing is counting on more medium-haul flights and is working on medium-haul models (like the 7E7 Dreamliner), while Airbus seems to think it's all about the big-ticket globe-trotting traveler. I kinda hope they both succeed. There really hasn't been anything ground-breaking in civil aviation since the Concorde.

[quote=Balanc3]Wonder what the the load times will be like. The 747 takes about an 1hr to board. I can't begin to imagine how long it would take.[/quote]

who cares how long it takes.. get in go to the bar :Alchy

to much money invested in a plane.. it would be nice to give all that money to help the others with no food and no basic conditions to live :(

CHEERS

Speaking of ugly planes...here's the Airbus 300-600ST transport plane:

[img]http://northernlight.net/images/aviation/jpegs/photo_01.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/jcurry/gallery02/beluga(2).jpg[/img]

I've seen it flying myself, and couldn't believe my eyes. :shock:

ha-ha wtf's that? it looks like a weasel or something.. so fucking weird!

CHEERS

It's called the Beluga, successor of the Super Guppy:

[img]http://m.salesses.free.fr/Nouveau_dossier6/Super-Guppy.jpg[/img]

i guess it does look like a whale

Boeing vs. Airbus. Airbus are betting that high capacity is wanted more in the future than what Boeing thinks is more smaller planes with greater range and more frequent flights. Hmm.. I wouldn't mind more flights, less layover time. Bigger planes take up more space and less convenient to land in a crowded terminal space, but it's definitely nice to be able to get more leg room.

I'll bet Boeing is right, if you have one small plane down, that's only say a couple hundred seats, you have one huge plane down for anything and that's 800 seats gone, ooops... I'd rather have a fleet of small effecient planes that can do the job of several huge planes. :RockOn:

Woop, more ways to destroy the environment :roll:

[quote=chemicalbeavis]stupid invention imo :roll:[/quote]

The lounge looks like the shiite...

all they need is a dj, poles, mirrors, lap dances, and a push cart of free drinks...

put the fun back into flying.... :RockOn:

[quote=Yao]Speaking of ugly planes...here's the Airbus 300-600ST transport plane:

[img]http://northernlight.net/images/aviation/jpegs/photo_01.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/jcurry/gallery02/beluga(2).jpg[/img]

I've seen it flying myself, and couldn't believe my eyes. :shock:[/quote]

Coincidence? I think not!

[img]http://www.dolphinleap.com/pictures/belugas/beluga.jpg[/img]

I saw a program about this on the learning channel a while back and they had only showed the first part up to where they finally got the parts and were getting ready to put them together and I never saw a second part to the program. I would've loved to have saw how they put this thing together. It's huge, and I'm sure the people of the cities nearby where they do assembly are not very happy about this.

Re: the new AIRbus plane

Believe me, the airlines won't put gyms, casinos and restaurants in the A380 ? although there might be a bar and a shop. Most airlines are cash-strapped and these planes will be about carrying as many people as possible, around 500 with a three configuration plane. First class will be the bees knees but will, of course, cost. Charter planes will, naturally, ram more people in.

Apparently, they're also more environmentally-friendly than other planes as well ? believe that if you will. :NotMe:

Boeing opted for a smaller jet ? the 7E7 Dreamliner ? for the future but Airbus have already announced its going to compete with the A350. Both seating around 250 people.

Given that the jumbo is 36 years old this year, it's about time there was something new :D

Aviation's a speciality subject I'm afraid... :roll:

Re: the new AIRbus plane

yeah its a heavy bastard alright....lol :lol: :lol:

[img]http://www.themanwhofellasleep.com/x/airbus.jpg[/img]

[quote=digitalghost10]Boeing vs. Airbus. Airbus are betting that high capacity is wanted more in the future than what Boeing thinks is more smaller planes with greater range and more frequent flights. Hmm.. I wouldn't mind more flights, less layover time. Bigger planes take up more space and less convenient to land in a crowded terminal space, but it's definitely nice to be able to get more leg room.

I'll bet Boeing is right, if you have one small plane down, that's only say a couple hundred seats, you have one huge plane down for anything and that's 800 seats gone, ooops... I'd rather have a fleet of small effecient planes that can do the job of several huge planes. :RockOn:[/quote]

1. The market is probably aimed toward the Middle East and Asian areas first because of the high volume of travellers in that region

2. Boeing has more fatalities than Airbus could dream of, thus why this feat was taken. If airbus knew that their planes sucked, they wouldn't have undergone this project.

3. Boeing is by far jealous, considering that 5/7 aircraft in the fleet of most airlines use the Airbus A series.

Re: the new AIRbus plane

[quote=mixu]Believe me, the airlines won't put gyms, casinos and restaurants in the A380 ? although there might be a bar and a shop. Most airlines are cash-strapped and these planes will be about carrying as many people as possible, around 500 with a three configuration plane. First class will be the bees knees but will, of course, cost. Charter planes will, naturally, ram more people in.

Apparently, they're also more environmentally-friendly than other planes as well ? believe that if you will. :NotMe:

Boeing opted for a smaller jet ? the 7E7 Dreamliner ? for the future but Airbus have already announced its going to compete with the A350. Both seating around 250 people.

Given that the jumbo is 36 years old this year, it's about time there was something new :D

Aviation's a speciality subject I'm afraid... :roll:[/quote]

Your right abouth the gyms and casino, I really doubt it'll happen. Remember the old Boeing ads where you saw things advertising similuar novalties, I have yet to see such a configuration (except on some of the planes built for Middle Eastern guys with loads of cash).

We've looked into building a super jumbo before but didn't see the market for it. After all it would be much easier for us to build it since we already have the 47, development costs would be considerably lower. Instead we opted for a smaller more fuel efficient plane. Most people want a reasonable priced flight, rather than casinos and gyms on board. With the new Airbus you have more weight, more drag, lower altitude flights which all add to more fuel. Boeing is building the 7E7 (787) which will be built from composites (I have a really great picture here but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post it). This will allow the plane to be lighter, fly higher, faster and more fuel efficiently. Also keep in mind that now you don't have corrosion issues that you do with aluminum skin, so less maintence costs in that area. All these should enable the airlines to either profit more and/or reduce ticket prices.

Localizer- I think you figure of 5/7 is a bit off. Secondly also keep in mind that Airbus can sell planes at a lower cost because of Govt. subsidies and also due to the fact that they build a one for all model for all their customers. Boeing builds planes in custom configurations based on customer demands, Airbus just sells them from the parking lot.

AIR Bus any kind of clue?

Re: the new AIRbus plane

This may have been said but what happens when one of these crashes? 800 people yikes!!!

[quote=Mr.Big]yeah i was watchin the unleashing in france on sky news in work...its fukin awesome...hope it never crashs with a full load of 800+ on it ouchh[/quote]

crowd killer. Very good news though, this is gonna bring a lot a stuff back to the aviation field.

Re: the new AIRbus plane

[quote=neoee][quote=mixu]Believe me, the airlines won't put gyms, casinos and restaurants in the A380 ? although there might be a bar and a shop. Most airlines are cash-strapped and these planes will be about carrying as many people as possible, around 500 with a three configuration plane. First class will be the bees knees but will, of course, cost. Charter planes will, naturally, ram more people in.

Apparently, they're also more environmentally-friendly than other planes as well ? believe that if you will. :NotMe:

Boeing opted for a smaller jet ? the 7E7 Dreamliner ? for the future but Airbus have already announced its going to compete with the A350. Both seating around 250 people.

Given that the jumbo is 36 years old this year, it's about time there was something new :D

Aviation's a speciality subject I'm afraid... :roll:[/quote]

Your right abouth the gyms and casino, I really doubt it'll happen. Remember the old Boeing ads where you saw things advertising similuar novalties, I have yet to see such a configuration (except on some of the planes built for Middle Eastern guys with loads of cash).

We've looked into building a super jumbo before but didn't see the market for it. After all it would be much easier for us to build it since we already have the 47, development costs would be considerably lower. Instead we opted for a smaller more fuel efficient plane. Most people want a reasonable priced flight, rather than casinos and gyms on board. With the new Airbus you have more weight, more drag, lower altitude flights which all add to more fuel. Boeing is building the 7E7 (787) which will be built from composites (I have a really great picture here but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post it). This will allow the plane to be lighter, fly higher, faster and more fuel efficiently. Also keep in mind that now you don't have corrosion issues that you do with aluminum skin, so less maintence costs in that area. All these should enable the airlines to either profit more and/or reduce ticket prices.

Localizer- I think you figure of 5/7 is a bit off. Secondly also keep in mind that Airbus can sell planes at a lower cost because of Govt. subsidies and also due to the fact that they build a one for all model for all their customers. Boeing builds planes in custom configurations based on customer demands, Airbus just sells them from the parking lot.[/quote]

A380-800 - Max cruising speed M 0.88. Long range cruising speed M 0.85. Range 14,800km (8,000nm). Service ceiling 43.000ft (13,100m). A380-800F - Range 10,370km (5,600nm).

.88 mach is about 550 knots TAS prob at 0 celcius and with a service ceiling of 43k feet, i'd say they'd prob cruise at normal flight lvl 36. Only fight you may see between boeing and airbus is fuel efficiency and and range.

"149 firm orders (including 27 freighters) by January 2005. Airbus has forecast a market for approx 1235 airliners of 400 seats and above through to 2020. First deliveries in early 2006."

Guess Boeing should hurry up?