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Christopher Hitchens

20 durable postsStarted 2010-06-22Latest 2012-01-11
#84794Post 1 of 20

I've just become acquainted with the dude. He's an incredible orator, so bloody well read and concise in his ideologies. He's got a ton of videos on youtube debating everything under the sun from politics to planets.

wicked dude.

saw this one yesterday and it's a very good discussion on various issues (see all 7 parts)

[video=youtube;kulwG7_MSXw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kulwG7_MSXw[/video]

will be catching up on this one today. have seen snippets of it and its impressive.

[video=vimeo;1904911]http://www.vimeo.com/1904911[/video]

#1385710Post 2 of 20

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I find him to be a bit of a blowhard, but certainly well versed.

#1385747Post 3 of 20

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I'm a fan of the other big Atheist progandists Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris but haven't gotten around to checking out this guy yet.

#1385752Post 4 of 20

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Richard Dawkins does make some compelling arguments but Hitchens is in a class of his own. Just search christopher hitchens on youtube and watch all his videos. he's brilliant in his own right.

#1385760Post 5 of 20

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I've been a big fan of The Hitch for years now, but I'm slowly becoming in-line with floridaorange's view. Excellent writer, and a decent orator when he's not too sloshed. He's really hit or miss nonetheless.

#1385853Post 6 of 20

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He certainly is an orator, but quite often his "facts" tend to not stand up to close scrutiny . And brother does he get pissed off when anyone dares to point it out. :lol: Very good on the personal attacks.

#1385871Post 7 of 20

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[QUOTE=DIDI;870969]He certainly is an orator, but quite often his "facts" tend to not stand up to close scrutiny . And brother does he get pissed off when anyone dares to point it out. :lol: Very good on the personal attacks.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. His arguments are pointless at times. For example, he was on a show talking about how Christians didn't know about the second set of ten commandments. He insinuated that they were somehow different from the first set that Moses destroyed. As if God decided to write a whole new set of commandments different than the first set. He was proud of himself that he knew that tidbit of fact as well.

#1385904Post 8 of 20

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Didn't have time to look at the videos this morning. But that first one is from one of my favourite shows. I love Q & A :D

Richard Dawkins is my favourite! :D He seems to have this feeling of wonder in the science :D

#1386010Post 9 of 20

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[QUOTE=DIDI;871026]Didn't have time to look at the videos this morning. But that first one is from one of my favourite shows. I love Q & A :D

Richard Dawkins is my favourite! :D He seems to have this feeling of wonder in the science :D[/QUOTE]

Richard dawkins and christopher hitchens and that other dude that writes for sci american all have there head up there ass so far that everything they say stinks like shit.

#1386113Post 10 of 20

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^^^ Well there is an informed decision for you :lol:

#1386116Post 11 of 20

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[QUOTE=jasonemrysss;871149]Richard dawkins and christopher hitchens and that other dude that writes for sci american all have there head up there ass so far that everything they say stinks like shit.[/QUOTE]

biblethumper?

#1386118Post 12 of 20

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Good possibility :lol:

#1411654Post 13 of 20

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wow just found out the hitch has esophageal cancer, he doesn't look good

[video=youtube;LgCq2T-v-Mo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgCq2T-v-Mo[/video]

#1575333Post 14 of 20

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worst news of the day, RIP.... :RockOn:

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/16/arts/christopher-hitchens-is-dead-at-62-obituary.html?pagewanted=all[/url]

#1575521Post 15 of 20

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Definitely a sad time... Very few enlightened thinkers these days that could share the same pedestal as Hitchens and very few that could carry the torch of rationality and logic like he did. He will be missed.

#1575998Post 16 of 20

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The best of Hitch Slap

[video]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=616_1324015039[/video]

#1576759Post 17 of 20

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I'm not trying to hijack this thread at all. Like was said earlier or on a different post, what is wrong with Christians, Atheists and Agnostics saying to each other, "I don't believe that, but respect your beliefs?" Why is there even a debate over it?

If there is a God Christians were right, however if what is preached and believed is true then it isn't going to matter that they were because God will forgive and all is well.

If there isn't we are all dead anyway and who gives a shit? I guess I don't see a reason to argue over it.

Honestly I do believe in a specific religion and would love to share thoughts and ideas about it with others, when requested. At the same time I also quite enjoy a good conversation with people who think differently from myself to better understand them and how they think and who they are.

I guess I'm just at a loss at why anyone, be it a "God fearing" person, Atheist or Agnostic would get so worked up on their soapbox as to discredit someone elses belief. It's like argueing that orange juice tastes better than apple juice.

#1577003Post 18 of 20

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it's not about the belief per se, it's about the fact that religion often affects people's choices in a rather unpleasant way towards disbelievers / unbelievers.

nevertheless, I agree to your point of view.

#1581681Post 19 of 20

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[QUOTE=Alpinevpr;1012514]I'm not trying to hijack this thread at all. Like was said earlier or on a different post, what is wrong with Christians, Atheists and Agnostics saying to each other, "I don't believe that, but respect your beliefs?" Why is there even a debate over it?

If there is a God Christians were right, however if what is preached and believed is true then it isn't going to matter that they were because God will forgive and all is well.

If there isn't we are all dead anyway and who gives a shit? I guess I don't see a reason to argue over it.

Honestly I do believe in a specific religion and would love to share thoughts and ideas about it with others, when requested. At the same time I also quite enjoy a good conversation with people who think differently from myself to better understand them and how they think and who they are.

I guess I'm just at a loss at why anyone, be it a "God fearing" person, Atheist or Agnostic would get so worked up on their soapbox as to discredit someone elses belief. It's like argueing that orange juice tastes better than apple juice.[/QUOTE]

i agree, but that analogy doesnt fit. arguing for god/gods is like saying that orange juice taste like chocolate milk because god told them it tastes like chocolate milk, and anyone who doesnt beleive it will burn for all eternity and in some time periods burned at the stake/tortured and killed, while the atheist say no it taste like orange juice because it was squeezed out of an orange.

(staying out of any more religious threads)

#1582585Post 20 of 20

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[QUOTE=jay813;1014132]i agree, but that analogy doesnt fit. arguing for god/gods is like saying that orange juice taste like chocolate milk because god told them it tastes like chocolate milk, and anyone who doesnt beleive it will burn for all eternity and in some time periods burned at the stake/tortured and killed, while the atheist say no it taste like orange juice because it was squeezed out of an orange.

(staying out of any more religious threads)[/QUOTE] See I can't agree with that. Granted this is just my thoughts, but anyone regardless of faith who blindly follows whatever god/gods/or whomever they believe says is odd. I'll openly admit my religion and I'll freely talk about all aspects of it (well sort of). However, I don't follow "doctrines" or "principles" without my reasons for doing so. Sure "god" has given me the commandment but if I choose to follow it or break it, it's [I]my[/I] choice, not because god told me so.

I think that is where the disconnect comes. People [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=969"]blame[/url] or praise a higher power for them either acting like an asshole or a good person. It can't just be that they are an asshole or good person.

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