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Shanghai

117 durable postsStarted 2010-01-29Latest 2011-06-21
#79770Post 1 of 117

Took some pictures of my move, my last night in Sydney, and my first morning in Shanghai, thought I'd share them and update this in the future with new pictures or whatever gigs I attend (if I manage to get out of the office!).

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#1328949Post 2 of 117

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Awesome!!

#1328950Post 3 of 117

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Cool view from the plane!! Great pics

#1328954Post 4 of 117

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sweet! you have to let us know how it is. i think living in that city would be an amazing experience. i am super jealous.

#1328980Post 5 of 117

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Wow..that's quite the move and location change. Thanks for sharing your pics. Looking forward to seeing Shanghai through your eyes!

#1328983Post 6 of 117

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good luck in shanghai man... new opportunities and new stuff to see! i'm sure you'll have a great time over there.

#1328985Post 7 of 117

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Right on Feather, looks like Shanghai is going to suit you well, pack lite, that is the spirit, best of luck.

#1329009Post 8 of 117

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what kind of camera do you have?

#1329067Post 9 of 117

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more city shots plz

#1329070Post 10 of 117

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[QUOTE=sonatine;829547]what kind of camera do you have?[/QUOTE]

Ricoh GR Digital. It's a point and shoot with full manual controls.

[QUOTE=tiddles;829611]more city shots plz[/QUOTE]

Yeah I'd love to, the work hours here are nuts, I've pretty much been living in the office!

#1329096Post 11 of 117

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sounds like asia ;)

do you actually work or do you just have to be there before the boss and leave after him like in korea?

#1329116Post 12 of 117

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Err I actually work unfortunately (like right now, 7:48pm on a Sat night). The culture doesn't require you to hang around and wait for your boss to leave.

I was habitually late when working in Sydney. In Shanghai, I'm habitually early despite showing up at the same time I did in Sydney. I've realised nobody comes to work early/on time because they're either working late the night before, or are expecting a late night!

#1329430Post 13 of 117

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Monday, second week in Shanghai, felt like a first day that never ended since I've been working every day including weekends and putting in late hours. Taking a break before I get back to work (9:43pm!) so I thought I'd post about my first week's experience.

I'm glad to dispel the general stereotype that the Chinese spit everywhere, I haven't seen any spitting at all. But I did hear the government put a huge fine on spitting so that might be why.

Heaps of smokers here and they smoke everywhere, including indoors. We have a smoking room at work like the airport, next to the recreation room. And in the recreation room, instead of pool, you get ping pong. :lol:

And they smoke IN the office at their desks after hours, so getting the second hand smoke is weird. And unfortunately that's started me having a few smokes with my colleague when I work back. And yup they smoke in restaurants.

When people want you, they want you immediately. They don't believe in emails here. They'll either come looking for you, or call you. A lot of urgency / lack of patience in every day life, expecting quick response, but strangely enough, everyone walks leisurely on the streets—I'd expect fast-paced like Hong Kong.

Food is very interesting even for someone used to Asian cuisine. You think you know Asian cuisine from eating out in Chinatown or authentic Chinese restaurants, but in China, you start drilling down into the different cuisines from different dialects / provinces as opposed to just 'Asian' or 'Cantonese.'

An expat living here can probably find anything they want, either the original foreign import, or a local analog. Walking around a 'foreign' supermarket, you'll see brands and products you recognise, and you'll be surprised at other foreign products you've never seen back home.

Architecture is amazing here, keep seeing new stuff, and there're all these hole-in-the-wall stores selling food or electrical goods or smokes, and street side carts selling anything from fried 'crepes' to roast duck noodles. Don't think anyone ever gets bored walking around, and I've hardly done much since I spend all my time in the office.

I found a tiny 2 bedroom apartment in a 'walk-up' that's probably 4-storey tall. Old apartment that was renovated with new stuff 2 months ago, but set among a block of similar buildings in a 'compound,' it's like some kinda community living, I don't know how to describe it, will have pics when I move in. And the 2br is gonna cost me 5.5K RMB a month which is like 915.50 AUD or 805 USD! 10 mins cab ride from the office, another 5-10 mins cab ride to a shopping district.

And a 10-min cab ride costs 12 RMB, 1.75 USD or 2 AUD :roll::shock::twisted:

Unfortunately no time to check out the local music scene yet, though I hear [URL="http://www.residentadvisor.net/club-detail.aspx?id=8274"]Shelter[/URL] is the place for underground music. DJ Krush played there 2 weeks back, so it can't be that bad.

Will upload more pics tomorrow.

#1329435Post 14 of 117

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what do you do for work? I'm sure this has been mentioned some where already, but i missed it

sounds like it would be a bit of culture shock, but a great experience

keep the pics coming mate

#1329529Post 15 of 117

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Great pics ... on my long long list of places to travel to and/or catch Diggers !!

China always makes me think of the Oakenfold Rojam set ;)

#1329538Post 16 of 117

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right on feather!

#1329558Post 17 of 117

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There was actually a show on Shanghai Sunday night. Looks totally different to anything I imaged. Really interesting. Have you heard of Thames Town ??

#1329639Post 18 of 117

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[QUOTE=Steve Graham;830046]what do you do for work? I'm sure this has been mentioned some where already, but i missed it

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I work in advertising, specialising in online. Not only is China a culture shock on a personal level, the way people use the internet, or the advertising campaigns anyway, are a bit of a culture shock too.

[QUOTE=DIDI;830195]There was actually a show on Shanghai Sunday night. Looks totally different to anything I imaged. Really interesting. Have you heard of Thames Town ??[/QUOTE]

What show are you referring to DD? Just googled Thames Town, not familiar with it at all. It looks like ... an area that has old English buildings? My office is in the French Concession Area so you do stumble across some European looking buildings. You'll see some in the pictures.

So these are my pictures from my first week, most of them are taken over 2 days because I live in the office :what

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#1329644Post 19 of 117

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The show was actually a series where this english comedian went through China. Paul Merton ? I think. The last one is Shanghai. Thames Town is brand spanking new !! Built for Chinese Anglophiles. But hardly anyone lives ther because apparently as soon as the houses are used they go down in price. So people have bought them purely for investment purposes. The one family they did interview , the husband was English.

#1330169Post 20 of 117

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the colour of the sky is strange... it's not cloudy... or grey...

#1330170Post 21 of 117

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thats the color of smog :D

#1330232Post 22 of 117

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The air here is perpetually shit but still breathable on street level. Though I've heard once you leave Shanghai and go somewhere like Australia, you appreciate the immediate difference. It might look worse in the pictures because I had adjusted exposure, etc.

#1330239Post 23 of 117

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great photographs!

#1352812Post 24 of 117

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Some random ...

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[IMG]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2634/4456743811_95b7c22e3b.jpg[/IMG] Postman at the door to my building. I live in a tiny 2br using one of the bedrooms as a lounge. It's very very local, I'm not sure if you'll find my apartment appealing at all. I might move to a bigger or newer place later.

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[IMG]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2720/4457523902_420c670bc3.jpg[/IMG] The Chinese hang their clothes to dry ...

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[IMG]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4457524934_beef835662.jpg[/IMG] and they hang them everywhere ... I'll take pics of them hanging clothes by the road soon.

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[IMG]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/4456747075_d6e4a01758.jpg[/IMG] I walk out to the street this way ... more clothes ...

[IMG]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/4457527210_3c27da8a76.jpg[/IMG] this is where I exit to ... you can see more clothes on the left. So this whole area with the barrier is like some sort compound which my building is part of. It's an old neighbourhood, sorta like government housing I think.

[IMG]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4064/4456748195_09eb01fe82.jpg[/IMG] Random sex shop 100m from my building and two old folks chatting infront of it. Haven't had the need to check out the shop yet.

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#1352824Post 25 of 117

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Very interesting pics mate.. Keep´m comming ;)

#1352956Post 26 of 117

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^ +10 These are thoroughly great photographs Feather... what kind of camera? really enjoyed the caps too, thx!:D

#1352958Post 27 of 117

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Surfing Facebook. Hard at work. :D

These are pretty cool photos, always good to get a real look at other countries and what daily life looks like.

#1352963Post 28 of 117

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do they have anything unique at Mcdonalds in Shanghai?

#1353048Post 29 of 117

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Great pics :D

#1353194Post 30 of 117

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how do you feel about living in china?

I think i'm gonna tell korea to fuck off in july and head to hong kong, taiwain or the mainland. not sure which one will have the best jobs, but it looks like i can get something in china pretty easily. I really want HK, but that's a long shot...

#1353426Post 31 of 117

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Shanghai's the most westernised city in China, used to be the Whore of the Orient. Locals here will try to speak English if you do, try being the operative word.

I've never been to China so on the whole Shanghai has been fascinating, lots of sights (and I don't mean tourist spots, just the novelty of seeing a different culture and way of living) and cuisine.

Been told Beijing is more raw and the people are more real, also more laidback, so I'm guessing Shanghai's more like Sydney and Beijing's more like Melbourne.

Standard of living can range from being very very cheap to equivalent to what we're used to in the west. But just about anything you're used to getting, you can get here, depends on how much you want to pay.

But what kinda work are you in, because I'm in advertising and the hours are ridiculous, Shanghai would be much better if I had more time out of the office.

#1353429Post 32 of 117

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i teach, write and do some other stuff - so i'd keep short hours ;)

how's your chinese? learning the language is the main reason i want to go to china

#1353430Post 33 of 117

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I'm Chinese so I can speak some of it, enough for work at least, though I'm sure I'm getting a lot of words wrong. I heard there're people who survive here without knowing any Chinese, I wouldn't be surprised.

Oh living standard's really high in Hong Kong.

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I had the chance to visit this area in Shanghai called [URL="http://shanghai.cultural-china.com/html/Travel/Creative-Industry-Clusters/200812/02-2248.html"]Tianzifang.[/URL] It's meant to be a creative area, lots of arts and craft, photographic galleries, and tourists. The locals would find it touristy but I didn't think so having seen more 'touristy' places elsewhere. The whole place is like a maze, what's fascinating is there're residential apartments and locals living there so if you take a wrong turn, you find yourself in the back street which leads to the apartments, and you get a glimpse of the pretty bad apartments they live in.

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You can see the contrast in this picture, cafe alfresco setting. I think this is why locals describe it as touristy, this is the FIRST quaint alfresco setting I've seen in Shanghai.

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This is an Aussie cafe/restaurant called Kommune. Says on the menu there's an Aussie bbq on weekends.

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This is one of the back alley/streets I mentioned that leads to people's homes. An alley like this is literally right behind the cafes and quaint setting.

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Another corridor to people's homes. At the end of this passageway there's a gate that's used to access the street.

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Now this, is interesting. I came across this in another alley and thought it was a tiny Japanese bar/eatery. Turns out it's the back of the restaurent [URL="http://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/asia/china/shanghai/61144/meshi/restaurant-detail.html"]Meshi[/URL] which they use to serve take out. I went back the same night and entered the restaurant via the front (they had Jude Law plastered on a wall, apparently he went there and had two dishes of raw beef or something). Anyway the inside is very small and very Japanese, filled with odd vintage stuff and the food is beautiful, definitely recommended if any of you visit Shanghai.

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This is the Teddy Cafe or something. They have a shop selling teddy bears and balcony/rooftop for drinks which you can see here.

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There you go, teddy bears.

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Stairs leading to the bar area. They didn't have any seats on the rooftop, so we left.

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And sat at a tiny shop next door for a beer.

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Tsingtao is a locally brewed beer, very light. This cost about AUD2.

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The table next to us looked like they've been there the whole arvo.

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One of the shops selling art n craft stuff.

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We finally made it up to Teddy Cafe. As you can see, the locals don't even bat an eyelid at the underwear.

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Another table next to us. They proceeded to take pictures of themselves later. Very strange, people love taking pictures of themselves.

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View from the table.

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We overlooked what might be a Thai restaurant, surprisingly clean and we could smell grilled prawns.

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More view from the table. I think my colleague was playing around with my camera.

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Our mojito with too much soda.

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This was on the wall next to the stairs, I'm assuming the notes were left behind by customers. Most of them are in mandarin of course, but this particular note and its message in english caught my eye.

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This is the subway station outside Tianzifang, it's the newest station I've seen in Shanghai.

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I guess subways look about the same everywhere but the warnings are always different.

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Interior shot ...

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This was at the exit of the People's Park station. People sleep EVERYWHERE. This is nothing. If I can brave the crowd at Ikea, I'll take pictures of people SLEEPING on Ikea beds and resting in their chairs in the showrooms. It's ridiculous.

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The scene outside People's Square. This is one of the busiest station and area in Shanghai.

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That billboard on the right, that's Nike's flagship store in Shanghai. I was headed there to pick up a backpack.

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#1355248Post 35 of 117

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I quite look forward to these posts of yours, give us more of an insight! The contrasts are amazing !!

#1355295Post 36 of 117

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More great pics feather, thanks alot...

#1355298Post 37 of 117

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very consistent quality in your photos Feather, thx again, and great captions too!

#1355309Post 38 of 117

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looks lke the same subway system as seoul

#1355318Post 39 of 117

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I'm really enjoying this thread, please keep it up.

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Cheers guys.

Brought my team back to the Tianzifang place for lunch.

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The kid was walking towards me but turned back when he saw me keeling down to take a picture :what

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This is Kommune again, the Aussie cafe. That's a nice cold bottle of Coopers Green, and they serve lattes out of that milk jar.

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Random expats.

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The biggest chicken parmagiana I've ever had in my life, that's including Sydney :shock:

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My local colleague, art director.

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My other local colleague, also an art director. I brought them out for lunch because we worked till 730am yesterday :shock:

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This is Nanjing Road West, a posh shopping stretch in Shanghai.

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Plaza 66, the poshest mall in Shanghai. Also the emptiest.

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Interior ... There's Dolce & Gabana, Dior, Emenegildo Zegna, Tods, Cartier, etc.

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And right after Plaza 66 we have Gucci and Bottega.

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And this guy busking right outside.

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The Majestic Theatre

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Awesome busking duo.

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The boarded up area across the road used to be a very famous and popular food street. My boss took me there to check out [URL="http://www.cnngo.com/shanghai/eat/xiao-yangs-sheng-jian-016481"]Xiao Yang Sheng Jian[/URL] (4 huge fried pork buns for AUD0.70) on its last day of operation. The entire block is gone now, supposedly made way for the expo though I don't see how they're gonna get anything up in time.

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An upscale whiskey bar called [URL="http://gochina.about.com/od/nightlifeinshanghai/p/Constellation.htm"]Constellation[/URL] with a lot of whiskies I don't recognise, and people smoking cigars. That fireplace is fake :what

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