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"Legal" high drugs to be banned (uk)

32 durable postsStarted 2009-08-25Latest 2009-08-27
#74195Post 1 of 32

[B]Legal high drugs to be banned[/B]

                					By Beverley Rouse, Press Association
        
	 			[I]Tuesday, 25 August 2009[/I]

Three types of chemical highs which are currently legal are due to be banned by the end of the year: GBL (Gamma-Butyrolactone) is a chemical solvent which is converted in the stomach into the Class C drug GHB (gamma-hydroxybutyrate) which is nicknamed "liquid ecstasy". GHB emerged on the party scene in the 1990s and was banned in 2003. GBL has already been banned for personal use in several countries including the United States, Canada and Sweden but its industrial use as a paint stripper means it is widely available on the internet and even in some health food shops for reportedly as little as 50p per dose. The UK's Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs highlighted last August that the "harms and misuse" of GBL were commensurate with a Class C drug. The dangers were also highlighted in a report by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction earlier this year. It said GBL was becoming more popular as a recreational drug and, despite security measures to limit its use in clubs and pubs, it was regularly being smuggled into London nightspots mixed with water in plastic bottles, condoms and balloons. It is virtually tasteless when diluted. The report said: "The ease with which GBL and thus GHB can be acquired allows potentially much easier and cheaper access than that usually found in illicit drug markets in the EU." It said people who bought the drug ranged from clubbers seeking euphoria to people interested in purported anti-ageing remedies or seeking increased sexual function. The death of student Hester Stewart, 21, in April this year prompted calls for GBL to be outlawed which were led by her family. Miss Stewart, a cheerleader with the Brighton and Sussex Waves, died after she consumed GBL with her on-off boyfriend Anthony Morrison after returning to his shared house in Brighton following an American football awards ceremony. Mr Morrison said it was the first time that Ms Stewart, a University of Sussex student studying molecular medicine, had taken the drug, which had been bought online from a site which warned it was not for human consumption. She was dead when he woke up at 9am on April 6, he told an inquest into her death. The inquest was told although the level of GBL consumed by Ms Stewart was low and would have led to full recovery in some people, its combination with alcohol proved fatal. Brighton and Hove coroner Veronica Hamilton-Deeley, who recorded a verdict of misadventure, said people using drugs like GBL recreationally needed to understand they were playing "Russian Roulette". The Home Office plans to classify GBL as a Class C drug and ban it when intended for human consumption. Synthetic cannabinoids, like the brand Spice, will become a Class B drug, the same as cannabis. The Government's drug adviser called for Spice to be banned earlier this month, saying it was created using dangerous chemicals although sold as a "natural" high. Professor David Nutt, chairman of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD), said: "Spice and other synthetic cannabinoid products are being sold legally as harmless 'herbal legal highs'. "However, the herbal content is coated in one or more dangerous chemical compounds that mimic the effects of cannabis. "These are not harmless herbal alternatives and have been found to cause paranoia and panic attacks." Pouches of the drug are currently widely available on the internet and in so-called "head shops" for around £20 for three grams. It is sold under brands such as Spice Silver, Spice Gold, Spice Diamond and Spice Yucatan Fire. The drug was banned in Germany, Austria and France, earlier this year. Reports from Germany suggested some users suffered heart problems after smoking the drug. Spice and other so-called synthetic cannabinoids escape existing UK drugs laws because they do not contain marijuana and are not chemically related to it. But by spraying synthetic additives on to herbs, dealers can create similar intoxication in users to that caused by THC, the active ingredient in cannabis. Analysis of samples of Spice showed it had a "higher potency" than THC, the ACMD warned. Its report said herbs listed on the packets of the drug were often not found inside and large amounts of Vitamin E were used to hide other chemicals. It said users could not "assume the same effects from the same product the next time they use it". BZP (Benzylpiperazine) is used to worm animals and as a fertiliser but has become popular for recreational use as it can have a similar effect to amphetamine. The drug is said to create euphoria and enhance a user's sense of taste, sound and colour. Some websites have marketed it as legal ecstasy and sell it for as little as £1 a tablet but it has already been banned in countries including America, Australia and Japan. Assistant deputy Sheffield coroner David Urpeth described BZP as a "huge concern for society" when he recorded a verdict of misadventure into the death of Daniel Backhouse, 22, from Sheffield, who suffered heart failure after mixing BZP with MDMA, the powdered form of Ecstasy. Mr Urpeth, speaking in May, said there was a "significant chance" of more deaths where BZP was mixed with ecstasy. The Government plans to control BZP, and related piperazines, as Class C drugs.

#1263602Post 2 of 32

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Not surprised really....not a fan of BZP anyway, and spice just felt like smoking a B&H!

#1263607Post 3 of 32

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such bullshit imo. I never did any of those but they might as well make alcohol illegal

#1263611Post 4 of 32

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should defo ban cigarettes -talk about a killer!

#1263615Post 5 of 32

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more red tape! :roll:

#1263657Post 6 of 32

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Good, people should stick to real things where the research of taking such things has been documented.

#1263705Post 7 of 32

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Yeah they are fucking horrible. I tried one once, it made me puke

#1263706Post 8 of 32

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wtf:

[IMG]http://www.annatarshop.co.uk/images/thecat.jpg[/IMG]

#1263707Post 9 of 32

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Strange how some people seem to get a proper effect off of them and others get the complete opposite and feel so shit.

#1263708Post 10 of 32

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[quote=poults;781723]Strange how some people seem to get a proper effect off of them and others get the complete opposite and feel so shit.[/quote]

Just like real drugs

#1263709Post 11 of 32

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I was more upset when the UK banned magic mushrooms about 4 years ago

#1263715Post 12 of 32

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[quote=chunky;781724]Just like real drugs[/quote]

To be fair, i have never known someone to feel shit off of "proper" drugs unless they have taken to much on there first time or something along them lines. I did a couple of these legal pills a few years ago and had a far worse comedown then i had ever had from anything else.

#1263725Post 13 of 32

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Yeah man me too. Never had a comedown like it...literally didn't leave my sofa for 24 hours

#1263768Post 14 of 32

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Yup, the roughest buzz & comedown I've ever had was from legal gear.

#1263776Post 15 of 32

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had my share with ghb and was great! then again i also meet a blond at that time ...:D

no bad comedowns nada.

#1263797Post 16 of 32

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stick to what's known and tried, I mean pot and mushrooms have been consumed intermitently by humans for hundreds or perhaps thousands of years...

#1263847Post 17 of 32

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[quote=floridaorange;781722]wtf:

[IMG]http://www.annatarshop.co.uk/images/thecat.jpg[/IMG][/quote] :lol::lol::lol: I read this article because I was doing a bit of a trawl around for legal stuff. Most of the legal stuff has already been rejigged to get around these laws . Human inventiveness is a wonderful thing.

Btw I haven't had bad comedowns or ill effects from legal or illegal, but that could be because I take them seriously when they say don't drink alcohol with them. :)

The legals usually just don't work. Or they effects they have are not the effects I want. I did find one which was definitely synthetic that did work but they have disappeared.

I've mainly been checking for legal cos illegal [pills] are just so hard to get here at the moment, and nasty people are trying to pass off chalk etc as MDMA.

#1263854Post 18 of 32

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had no idea ghb was legal anywhere hate that shit, tastes awful

#1263944Post 19 of 32

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they are on about GBL

#1263960Post 20 of 32

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as long as they leave the mephedrone alone for a while they can do wot they like,its the ticket!

#1263963Post 21 of 32

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[quote=chunky;781725]I was more upset when the UK banned magic mushrooms about 4 years ago[/quote]

Me too, but @ lest you can still buy the kit and grow them yourself now8)

#1263965Post 22 of 32

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[quote=Dzone;782007]Me too, but @ lest you can still buy the kit and grow them yourself now8)[/quote]

not sure if you can mate, the kits used to be easy enough to order from holland but they don't ship to uk now. and you'd be breaking the law whereas before they changed the rules the shrooms were legal to possess until they'd been dried for consumption. Bullshit eh?

To get arrested for walking through a field and picking up something that has just grown there seems like madness to me.

If the government thought it would give them more control over people in some way they'd make fucking rhubarb illegal.

:x

#1263966Post 23 of 32

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hmmmmmmm mushroom crumble?

#1263975Post 24 of 32

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[quote=GAVIN.MCAVOY;782004]as long as they leave the mephedrone alone for a while they can do wot they like,its the ticket![/quote] What's that?

#1264147Post 25 of 32

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[quote=DIDI;782019]What's that?[/quote] like mdma.only much cheaper

#1264162Post 26 of 32

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[quote=Steve Graham;781889]had no idea ghb was legal anywhere hate that shit, tastes awful[/quote]

not sure what you drank but it taste like salt water man.

#1264205Post 27 of 32

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^you never know what exactly your getting in florida:lol:

#1264289Post 28 of 32

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[quote=GAVIN.MCAVOY;782201]like mdma.only much cheaper[/quote] Any possiblity of more information ?? :)

#1264363Post 29 of 32

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ghb was banned in nz a few years ago... man, i never touched that shit, regardless of my friends loving it and saying how "safe" it was... what people dont realise is you can take 5ml and nothing happens, you take another 1 ml and you can od. it has a steep dosage curve...

Ill never forget one of my mates being taken from the club after having a dose he would have taken heaps of times, wheeled out on a stretcher, bloating up and going red in the face... a week in hospital later and im glad to say hes still with us.

good riddance i say. fuck that shit.

#1264368Post 30 of 32

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^^^ Second that !!

#1264381Post 31 of 32

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[quote=bobjuice;782009]not sure if you can mate, the kits used to be easy enough to order from holland but they don't ship to uk now. and you'd be breaking the law whereas before they changed the rules the shrooms were legal to possess until they'd been dried for consumption. Bullshit eh?

To get arrested for walking through a field and picking up something that has just grown there seems like madness to me.

If the government thought it would give them more control over people in some way they'd make fucking rhubarb illegal.

:x[/quote]

Don't go near the rhubarb :shock:

Love that shit

#1264404Post 32 of 32

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Aren't rhubarb leaves poisonous :lol:

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