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^I wonder if Jim knows what that means? Hope he doesnt get the wrong idea, ya know?

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[QUOTE=Chatterbot;731567]No. Usually one listening-session is enough for me to judge. It has always been this way...First impressions, you know? :oops:

Cheers, G.[/QUOTE]

A friend of mine would listen to a cd from GU or Nubreed or Balance or other big name labels with good reputations, like 50 times before deciding if he liked it...takes patience for sure. Here's the kicker, after listening to it that much, you begin to understand things about what the artist was thinking on a whole different level and in his case, he would begin to like the album a lot...I tried that approach and the funny thing is, it actually works. I can't say I have the patience to do this with any real consistency, but I kind of wish I did...but with all of the music out there to listen to, who puts in that kind of effort? Typically, no one. You appreciate the tracks and sequence on a different level, give it a try some time.

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I kind of agree with the theory above. There's times where you return to a mix that you really enjoyed, but then realize it's not as good as you remember it being the first time you heard it. The opposite is also true where you return to a mix that might not be your favorite, but you notice small, subtle things about it you never noticed it before.

I find that my mood dictates the kind of music I'm listening to, and when you're putting on a mix you've never heard before, you mood can dictate your first (and sometimes your last) impressions on the mix, the artist, etc. There are times where I'll try to listen to a mix I never really dug on first listen and give it a second chance if I'm in a different mindset and see if I like it better or I'm willing to give it a second chance to see if it was my mood that dictated if I liked it or not, or if the mix, song, whatever just isn't up my alley.

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[quote=Highsteppa;731717]I kind of agree with the theory above. There's times where you return to a mix that you really enjoyed, but then realize it's not as good as you remember it being the first time you heard it. The opposite is also true where you return to a mix that might not be your favorite, but you notice small, subtle things about it you never noticed it before. .[/quote]

For me the best CD's are the ones I bought and where completely incomprehensable to start with and then I randomly pick them up months or years later and they just blow my mind. The CD's that have instant impact I tend to tire of after a while. but so many clicked later. I suppose that's why I'm now not in a hurry for the most up front mixes or Cd's anymore.

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^precisely why it is amatuerish to write it off after 1 listen.

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I suppse one of the best examples of it for me was Digweed LA. It did nothing for me at all on first, second or even third listen, then we drove back from the very last session in Birmingham, I put it on and it just clicked into place. Whenever I've had that experience its been one of the most brilliant experiences in my life. I also had it off Yoshiesque 2 at a party round my house after the Gatecrasher 2001 Summer Sound System.

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[quote=chunky;731728]For me the best CD's are the ones I bought and where completely incomprehensable to start with and then I randomly pick them up months or years later and they just blow my mind. The CD's that have instant impact I tend to tire of after a while. but so many clicked later. I suppose that's why I'm now not in a hurry for the most up front mixes or Cd's anymore.[/quote]

My sentiments exactly... I always give an album a couple tries before I disregard it cause so many albums have caught me by surprise on the third or fourth listen that leaves me begging for more and wondering how come I missed certain parts the first time round. Sometimes even after many spins; will have some hidden gems that make me go whoa...where did that come from! But like floridaorange rightly mentioned - who really puts the effort - its a fast paced world that caters to instant gratification.... C'est la vie.

After so many good reviews, I will definitely give this album a spin.

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I liked it. Both discs. Fresh sounds on both.

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[quote=floridaorange;731731]^precisely why it is amatuerish to write it off after 1 listen.[/quote]

Dude. Look at my age. It´s not the first CD I´m bashing :lol: As said above: a mix-compilation should lead to somewhere, should offer some bigger view or something. Should create a bow. I find a lot of those tracks utterly nerving, that said I don´t need to give it another try. One nerving song in a set: No problem. Two or more of that: thanks, I´m done. That kills the flow, and I´m not willing to skip more of the tracks to "enjoy" the album.

Cheers, G.

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[quote=floridaorange;731686]I tried that approach and the funny thing is, it actually works. I can't say I have the patience to do this with any real consistency, but I kind of wish I did...but with all of the music out there to listen to, who puts in that kind of effort? Typically, no one. You appreciate the tracks and sequence on a different level, give it a try some time.[/quote]

Agreed that some mixes grow on you, but by the very same argument you put forth, there're so much music out there these days, if a mix doesn't grab you with its opening track and the first half of the CD, then it's failed IMO.

You're saying mixes can grow on you, but there's a certain bias in that because if this was a mix from John Doe, you wouldn't give it the time of the day. You're approaching this as a mix from Jim Rivers and you expect something out of it, so you're listening to it more and giving it more time hoping that something will reveal itself to you.

It's like if you sent in a promo to Digweed, I think in an old interview he mentioned he might only have the time between the club and the airport to listen to it, so if the mix doesn't grab him in that interim, it's gone.

I can say most of the mixes or DJs I'm into grab me from the first track. They might fuck it up 3/4 into a mix, but I'm already sold from that opener and first 1/2 of the mix.

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[quote=feather;731871]

I can say most of the mixes or DJs I'm into grab me from the first track. They might fuck it up 3/4 into a mix, but I'm already sold from that opener and first 1/2 of the mix.[/quote]

Agreed on this.. in most cases..

That opening track on CD 1 definitely grabbed me 8)

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[QUOTE=chunky;731737]I suppse one of the best examples of it for me was Digweed LA. It did nothing for me at all on first, second or even third listen, then we drove back from the very last session in Birmingham, I put it on and it just clicked into place. Whenever I've had that experience its been one of the most brilliant experiences in my life. I also had it off Yoshiesque 2 at a party round my house after the Gatecrasher 2001 Summer Sound System.[/QUOTE]

The first time I heard Hernan it was his first Renaissance and I was underwhelmed enough to think twice about going to see him. And well, we all know how that turned out. I love that cd and that night was amazing :D

Definitely give everything at least a second chance now. Btw Haven't heard anything from this yet.

Feather , I do love the ones that grab you with the opening track, and they stand a much better chance of a better listen.

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wow GU LA ... how do you not get hooked by Apollo Vibes? And seduced by Love in Traffic? And totally fucked up with the rest of the mix?

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^^^I´m also one of of the few that just dosent get that mix

GU LA puts me to sleep every single time, hell i´ve even gave it a try compleatly f***ed and it still didn´t do anything for me

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[quote=feather;731909]wow GU LA ... how do you not get hooked by Apollo Vibes? And seduced by Love in Traffic? And totally fucked up with the rest of the mix?[/quote]

Yeah the opening is brilliant, even on the first listen. I think a lot of people didn't like it much after that. But i do feel it was a harder mix it get into. It took me about 10 months but when it clicked together it was magic. Nick Warrens Amsterdam GU took me 8 years, that why I always look after my CDs

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[quote=chunky;732049]Yeah the opening is brilliant, even on the first listen. I think a lot of people didn't like it much after that. But i do feel it was a harder mix it get into. It took me about 10 months but when it clicked together it was magic. Nick Warrens Amsterdam GU took me 8 years, that why I always look after my CDs[/quote]

Yep same here I used to hate that mix it took me about 2 years to get in too it, after that it actually became my favorite GU

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[QUOTE=chunky;732049]. Nick Warrens Amsterdam GU took me 8 years, that why I always look after my CDs[/QUOTE] Strangely enough i understand that, Every now and then I will pull out something old and play it and just go Wow!! How come I didn't get that before !!

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:Spam:

i thought this type of self promotion wasnt allowed! :lol:

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[quote=DIDI;732053] Every now and then I will pull out something old and play it and just go Wow!! How come I didn't get that before !![/quote]

How true....

I'm feeling that way now re-listening to Dave Seaman - Back to Mine.

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Rumor is Sultan is doing the next NuBreed

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Sultan eh.. I wouldn't mind that at all.

I was always under the impression that the NuBreed series was more tribal influenced ... but I suppose thats not the case anymore...

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[quote=Chatterbot;731757]a mix-compilation should lead to somewhere, should offer some bigger view or something.[/quote]

^^ THIS

Epic example of "leading somewhere" for me is DH NF2 - Disc 2. What a journey that old timer is for me, even after all these years.

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^THAT aka "leading somewhere" is very subjective imo...

the question is, why does or doesn't a mix lead you on a journey? that is what's interesting to read when someone comments about an artists work.

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[quote=floridaorange;732713]^THAT aka "leading somewhere" is very subjective imo...[/quote]

subjective as long as both ears are functioning properly imo ;)

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[quote=Kamal;732708]^^ THIS

Epic example of "leading somewhere" for me is [B]DH NF2 - Disc 2. [/B]What a journey that old timer is for me, even after all these years.[/quote]

by far the greatest thing ever made. that cd is locked in my car atm, and i lost my keys, argh!

hey subjective activity is just as potent as objective actuality :)

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[quote=dusk;732701]Sultan eh.. I wouldn't mind that at all.

I was always under the impression that the NuBreed series was more tribal influenced ... but I suppose thats not the case anymore...[/quote]

Nubreed hasn't been tribal for a while ... in fact I thought Lawler was the only tribal sounding DJ on Nubreed. The Nubreed series was meant to showcase 'upcoming' DJs wasn't it?

[quote=floridaorange;732713]^THAT aka "leading somewhere" is very subjective imo...

the question is, why does or doesn't a mix lead you on a journey? that is what's interesting to read when someone comments about an artists work.[/quote]

To me a typical journey has a start and end point, which probably sounds like the obvious. Typically indicated by shifts in tempo and mood, a mix usually leads up to a high point somewhere around the 3/4 mark or 4/5 mark. That seems like a pretty basic structure to a journey for a 1 or 2 CD mix.

As a mix gets longer, the DJ has more opportunities to bring you on a meandering journey, detours. There'll be troughs and peaks in the mix, and the whole set might be broken up into mini-sets that carry on the same theme or sound before moving on. I think Digweed, Howells (since his Kiss set is fresh in my mind) and Folder are good at that, they have this ability to get you into a deep groove and then take a turn and drop the floor from under you with some melodies or massive tune. On top of that Digweed can build up a set to a vortex and then diffuse that while maintaining that energy and groove: It's like the surface has changed but the undercurrent's the same.

Then you have DJs like Burridge or Garnier who' can pretty much mix up anything and you don't think of it as a journey while dancing your ass off to those eclectic sounds, but at the end of the set you stand there on the dancefloor, the whole night comes back to you and go, whoa wtf have I been dancing to, I started out at point A and ended up at point G.

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[quote=Kamal;732708] Epic example of "leading somewhere" for me is DH NF2 - Disc 2. What a journey that old timer is for me, even after all these years.[/quote]

Good call on Danny Howells. For me the 24/7 night-disc is an all-time-fav. That said: laying on a pool in Italy on hollidays, the day-disc has always been played... Both CDs offer a great journey, but on different roads.

Cheers, G.

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[quote=Chatterbot;732991]Good call on Danny Howells. For me the 24/7 night-disc is an all-time-fav. [/quote]

Hmmm.. can never decide between the two.. sooo good :twisted:

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[QUOTE=feather;732869]Nubreed hasn't been tribal for a while ... in fact I thought Lawler was the only tribal sounding DJ on Nubreed. The Nubreed series was meant to showcase 'upcoming' DJs wasn't it?

To me a typical journey has a start and end point, which probably sounds like the obvious. Typically indicated by shifts in tempo and mood, a mix usually leads up to a high point somewhere around the 3/4 mark or 4/5 mark. That seems like a pretty basic structure to a journey for a 1 or 2 CD mix.

As a mix gets longer, the DJ has more opportunities to bring you on a meandering journey, detours. There'll be troughs and peaks in the mix, and the whole set might be broken up into mini-sets that carry on the same theme or sound before moving on. I think Digweed, Howells (since his Kiss set is fresh in my mind) and Folder are good at that, they have this ability to get you into a deep groove and then take a turn and drop the floor from under you with some melodies or massive tune. On top of that Digweed can build up a set to a vortex and then diffuse that while maintaining that energy and groove: It's like the surface has changed but the undercurrent's the same.

Then you have DJs like Burridge or Garnier who' can pretty much mix up anything and you don't think of it as a journey while dancing your ass off to those eclectic sounds, but at the end of the set you stand there on the dancefloor, the whole night comes back to you and go, whoa wtf have I been dancing to, I started out at point A and ended up at point G.[/QUOTE]

Your insights are truly enjoyable to read. Do you think Jim Rivers Nubreed Mix takes Jim Rivers on a journey?

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I like disc 2, I need to listen to disc 1. So far I'm impressed with the cd.

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Ok, just finished listening to disk 1 on headphones and I'm loving it ... right from track one which is superb and then half way into the album the tracks are stunners... only track I'm not feeling so much is Push Push.. not really big into male vocals... I would give this disk 5 stars if it wasn't for that one.

Now onto disk 2....lets give it a listen...

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[quote=floridaorange;733136] Do you think Jim Rivers Nubreed Mix takes Jim Rivers on a journey?[/quote]

I dunno mate, there're some nice tracks on the mix but on the whole I struggle to finish it. I'm relistening to CD1 and my attention began to drift after the 40 min mark. At the 52 min mark, I can't even remember what the previous tracks were or where the mix originated. Nice tracks mixed together overall the sound is disjointed, it's almost like listening to the tracks on their own (1-3, 4-5, 6, 7, 8-9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17). Just my opinion :NotMe:

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i think these cds are great. best thing from GU since howells miami. tunes are deep, some are moody and trancey, some are kinda housey and some are headfuck. great stuff

post your live mixes here jim:

[url]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9[/url]

thanks

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[quote=tiddles;734933]

post your live mixes here jim:

[URL]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9[/URL]

thanks[/quote]

+1

Never heard a live set from you Jim...

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Given CD1 a couple of listens and love it. CD2 coming up...

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jim is here??????????????? wow amazing compilation!