so I downloded a bit torrent program - and I guess it's working. I got some shows - a great New Order one on the way and my question is

1. What are the best ways to search for bit torrent files/concerts? Any favorite one stop shopping metasearch sites or do I have to go to the individual sites like sharingthegroove.com etc.

2. Why do people have a cow about mp3 format and only want .shn files or flack??? It's a pain to have to convert them back to mp3.

3. If I have the file on my drive completed- do I need to "seed" the file to help share it or is it done automatically?

4. Seems like bittorrents are a pain in the ass compared to a simple programs like soulseek etc.

help a newbie to these get ejumacated!!!!!

Yes they are a pain in a way, but very cool in others. With P2P you always have to worry about the RIAA or the MPAA or whatever. With BT you do not. Thats why I like to use it. Any way. Some links for yaz.

[url]http://azureus.sourceforge.net/[/url]

This is the BT Client I like, although it is Java based which suxx to holy hi hell. So if you have a mediocre comp or just hate Java with a passion like I usually do (not in this case), you wanna try this one.

[url]http://bittornado.com/[/url]

Also a decent client.

a few sites to try are.

[url]www.suprnova.org[/url] [url]http://suprnovaforums.com[/url] forum for the above BT site, more info and such [url]www.phoenix-torrents.com[/url] [url]www.torrents.co.uk[/url] [url]www.torrentz.com[/url] i think this one is down now.

I used to know a few more, i think i still have a few others bookmarked at home so I will update if/when I get home. Crazy storm a brewin' outside right now. HUGE thunderclaps that shake the hole building, well insulated but you can here it like it hit the building, crazy.

Any way. The BT scene is dying a little for some reason right now, it got all popular and started to suck. IRC has quite a few channels where people host torrent files too so check the usual IRC sources.

Re: Advice on bit torrents needed

[quote=cwsiggy]so I downloded a bit torrent program - and I guess it's working. I got some shows - a great New Order one on the way and my question is

1. What are the best ways to search for bit torrent files/concerts? Any favorite one stop shopping metasearch sites or do I have to go to the individual sites like sharingthegroove.com etc.

2. Why do people have a cow about mp3 format and only want .shn files or flack??? It's a pain to have to convert them back to mp3.

3. If I have the file on my drive completed- do I need to "seed" the file to help share it or is it done automatically?

4. Seems like bittorrents are a pain in the ass compared to a simple programs like soulseek etc.

help a newbie to these get ejumacated!!!!![/quote]

1. [url]www.suprnova.org[/url] Hands down the best Bit Torrent site.

2. I wouldn't get .mp3's on Bit Torrent. It's huge pain in ass.

3. If you close the "Download" window, then you've cut off others from downloading from you and ceased to be a "seed".

4. They are a pain in the ass. They are good for movies and appz in reality. Nothing will piss you off more than downloading 90% of a 4GB movie and then having all of the seeds up and disappear. Trust me, I know.

I can help on #3,

You just leave the bitturrent window up. The upload rate will still be going up and down. Once you close the window after it has finished you stop seeding.

As for #4 Bit torrent is a great program for extremely large files. (copying dvd's etc) people trying to share a 2GB file on an open sharing problem would probally not have much bandwidth to share anything else.(If alot of people are uploading the 2GB file) At least that's my take on it. :D

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[quote=Northern Exposed] 4. They are a pain in the ass. They are good for movies and appz in reality. Nothing will piss you off more than downloading 90% of a 4GB movie and then having all of the seeds up and disappear. Trust me, I know.[/quote]

:ROFLMAO:

Aint that the truth. I definetely hear you on this one. Many DVD movies I have got around 4.2 when its 4.3 gig and UHHHHH. But then you just get it on net flix and DVD Shrink and bam.

Like I said though, the pain is worth it for the anonymity.

Now the big question - is there a way after I have downloaded some of the file - to convert just that small part so I can listen to it to preview it for quality. The reason I ask is I downloaded a huge Pink Floyd 77 concert (The one where Waters went ape on some fans) and the quality was horrid. I wouldn't have downloaded the file if I knew it ws that bad.

I do have a .shn to mp3 converter and a flack converter but they would not let me convert until the whole 900 mb file was done!!!!!!!!

advice advice

[url]http://www.filesoup.com/forum/[/url] is also worth checking out. :)

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[quote=Civic_Zen]Like I said though, the pain is worth it for the anonymity.[/quote]

Dumb question maybe, but how come it's so anonymous?

[url]http://www.searchengines.pl/phpbb203/index.php?s=87702059b2ff5e979f1d400972214d8e&showtopic=11950[/url]

[quote=cwsiggy]Now the big question - is there a way after I have downloaded some of the file - to convert just that small part so I can listen to it to preview it for quality. The reason I ask is I downloaded a huge Pink Floyd 77 concert (The one where Waters went ape on some fans) and the quality was horrid. I wouldn't have downloaded the file if I knew it ws that bad.

I do have a .shn to mp3 converter and a flack converter but they would not let me convert until the whole 900 mb file was done!!!!!!!!

advice advice[/quote]

you have to d/l the whole file in order to use it.

bit torrent is good b/c it prevents leaching - in order to get you have to give.

music is usually in either shn or flac formats when transferred via bit torrent - both files formats need top be converted. thgey are both lossless, compressed formats transferred quicker than wav files.

the whole mp3 thing: there are music purists (some may call the freaks) who go apeshit when you distribute a live concert in mp3 format - they considered this 'pollution' per say - they want to keep the music that is circulating in the highest possible quality. i have hundreds of live shows, and it's mostly b/c of bit torrent - if the people that tape the show, and then distribute the show don't want me to do convert to mp3, then i have no problem with it. it's also very much a respect thing for those who go out of their way and use their own time and money to record shows, but get nothing back for it.

i don't think it's an unreasonable request, considering you're getting something for nothing, basically.

i am pretty experienced with bit torrent - feel free to ask questions.

if you are looking for live concerts - [url]www.sharingthegroove.org[/url] - it's a great site - so much live music - it'll eat up your hard drive in no time. trust me - i know :wink:

:wink: 8)

if you like go'vt mule: [url]http://www.muletorrents.net/[/url]

another mule fan on [ms]?

werd

[quote=cwsiggy]Now the big question - is there a way after I have downloaded some of the file - to convert just that small part so I can listen to it to preview it for quality. The reason I ask is I downloaded a huge Pink Floyd 77 concert (The one where Waters went ape on some fans) and the quality was horrid. I wouldn't have downloaded the file if I knew it ws that bad. [/quote]

depends on the file extension. You can use a nice little proggy called VideoLAN that'll work on some of them...you won't be able to see a lot or it might skip/hang a bit, but at least quality and verification-wise it works...but also you'd want a reasonable amount downloaded to check as well (say ~10-20% dependent on filesize)

Just make a copy of the file, as most won't play things while they are downloading.

[quote=peeps]another mule fan on [ms]?

[/quote] 8)

[quote=Civic_Zen] [url]http://azureus.sourceforge.net/[/url]

This is the BT Client I like, although it is Java based which suxx to holy hi hell. So if you have a mediocre comp or just hate Java with a passion like I usually do (not in this case), you wanna try this one.

[/quote]

I think that's the best client out there though. I don't see your problem with Java though. It's not that slow.

[quote=peeps] music is usually in either shn or flac formats when transferred via bit torrent - both files formats need top be converted.[/quote]

I haven't seen many music torrents in this format. Is it just a particular torrent site where you find your music because all music I've found has been MP3, at least that's what I've found. I'm not familiar is it more compressed than mp3????

[quote=JetaTek]http://www.filesoup.com/forum/ is also worth checking out. :)[/quote]

They have their own "Moderator Appreciation" section on this board. Maybe we should bring this on here too so you can praise the [ms] crew more. :ROFLMAO:

[quote=Neo][quote=Civic_Zen] [url]http://azureus.sourceforge.net/[/url]

This is the BT Client I like, although it is Java based which suxx to holy hi hell. So if you have a mediocre comp or just hate Java with a passion like I usually do (not in this case), you wanna try this one.

[/quote]

I think that's the best client out there though. I don't see your problem with Java though. It's not that slow.[/quote]

my client is ABC (another bittorrent client) seems to work just fine, i never used any others so can't really compare, anyone else use this?

I uses ABC as well and really like it. Another one I use occcasionally is BitComet. This one lets you select which files in the torrent file to d/l - very useful if you are only interested in one (or more) particular file in the torrent.

Agree with others on suprnova and sharingthegroove - really great sites for music bt!

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I have recently been using [url=http://www.torrentstorm.com/]Torrentstorm[/url] which just keeps all the torrents nicely together rather than having hundreds in the system tray :)

suprnova.org is all u need mate trust me!

H

Re: Advice on bit torrents needed

Check out G3Torrent if you haven't. I've used and like Azureus, and while it is comprehensive, it is also a bit bloated (java and what not). G3Torrent's pretty lean in comparison and has all the important features (save for the ability to use plugins like Safepeer). The client is updated frequently as well.

Re: Advice on bit torrents needed

[quote=poorimpulsectrl";p="49352]Check out G3Torrent if you haven't. I've used and like Azureus, and while it is comprehensive, it is also a bit bloated (java and what not). G3Torrent's pretty lean in comparison and has all the important features (save for the ability to use plugins like Safepeer). The client is updated frequently as well.[/quote]

i used to download with azureus but i see that's pretty good variant thanks

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i just downloaded the software from bittorrent .com , just downloading for the first time. my question is : everytime i download something it asks me for a donation, is this how it works or is it this certain bittorrent developer?... i dont mind donating a couple of times , but if this is for every set , im going to be broke

[quote=Civic_Zen]

my client is ABC (another bittorrent client) seems to work just fine, i never used any others so can't really compare, anyone else use this?[/quote]

I found ABC pretty buggy. If you'd like something just like it, try the aforementioned G3Torrent.

i really love suprnova have almost everything ;)

Re: Advice on bit torrents needed

You can get almost every site available here: [url]http://www.btsites.tk/[/url] but smaller sites with livesets you can find through the link portion on certain sites. Some are free some you have to pay for. suprnova.org is one of the best ones but a smaller site that has lots is filelist.org. The main thing you have to know about torrents is that it works on ratio basis most of the time the more you upload the more you have access. To find out more on how bittorent wotks check this site: [url]http://dessent.net/btfaq/[/url] - hope this helps

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[/code]2. Why do people have a cow about mp3 format and only want .shn files or flack??? It's a pain to have to convert them back to mp3. [code]

Its a question of quality? There is a real big diffrence between lossless compression like flack and mp3.