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Big Bang Day
88 durable postsStarted 2008-09-09Latest 2008-10-09
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they probably won't find much. people will call it a failure, a waste of huge amounts of resources. republicans will be like...you think WE wasted money...at least we're freeing people. the backlash against science will continue, and slowly we slouch towards mesopotamia.
i'll be in my mud hut if anyone cares. ( :) on the bright side, we're one step closer to our answers and will force us to re-evaluate lots of know physics and such...)
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Rosie O'Donnel Sex tape?
(FAIL)
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its not even at full power tomorrow
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[quote=|Thrax|;647522]its not even at full power tomorrow[/quote]
I thought it was tomorrow, because there was a freak-out session about a month ago when it first started up, too. Maybe I'm wrong.
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tomorrow theyre just running a beam all the way through the lhc. there wont be any collisions for a few weeks and full strength collisions wont take place until oct 21st (i think thats the date). tomorrow is just first time its powered on all the way...
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im all for science, but this kinda scares me. properties of black holes, magnetons, and stranglets dont exactly go hand in hand with life.
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The BIG BANG happened the last time an advanced civillian culture built the first Large Hadron Collider.
I kid. :p
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Come on, what can possibly happen? :p
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what are we supposed to learn from all this?
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first off it can help them complete the standard model of physics and tie gravitation in with it, that is if they discover the higgs boson. which is theoretical. they also hope to discover how mass-less particles gain mass
a black hole can possibly emerge, but the published theories are that it wont be able to sustain itself long enough to continue existing or enlarge (think millionths of a second). it could sustain itself and then pretty much roam the earth undetected, unnoticed, etc and never grow, or it could grow and swallow us all but that could take many many many many universe lifetimes.
the coulds and probablys scare me lol
in all reality nothing is going to happen.
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I guess it could always transform.
[IMG]http://www.seibertron.com/comics/universe/original/unicron.jpg[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=shosh;647573]first off it can help them complete the standard model of physics and tie gravitation in with it, that is if they discover the higgs boson. which is theoretical. they also hope to discover how mass-less particles gain mass
a black hole can possibly emerge, but the published theories are that it wont be able to sustain itself long enough to continue existing or enlarge (think millionths of a second). it could sustain itself and then pretty much roam the earth undetected, unnoticed, etc and never grow, or it could grow and swallow us all but that could take many many many many universe lifetimes.
the coulds and probablys scare me lol
in all reality nothing is going to happen.[/QUOTE]
I'm impressed you're posting something other than politics :p
but in all reality, I can't imagine how it could create a black hole of any significant tragedy. Yes quantum/theoretical physics could drum up some crazy calculations that could show the birth of a small black hole but you have to realize the amount of particles they will collide that could collapse in on itself creating blackholes smaller than caviar eggs. Nothing the size that's resulting from a dying star. Though if they are able to prove the higgs boson particle (or discover the reason at what stage does sufficient amount of matter cause its relative binding to produce mass), would probably be the most incredible discovery of our times (other than finding intelligent life on other planets).
Who knows, them aliens who are billions of light years ahead of our technology might detect the birth of these strange particles thanks to the collision and they might just stop by our way to see wtf is going on in with the Frenchies :lol:
But as far as the big bang goes, I read another theory that explains that there's not just one universe but we live in an existence of multiverses and the collision of gigantic multiverses gives birth to infant universes through.... a big bang
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You know I very much preferred it when we dissed/talked about Digweed's hair. :p;)
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not me.
minimal black holes. ;)
ya sure, lets par-tee
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[quote=Kamal;647596]but in all reality, I can't imagine how it could create a black hole of any significant tragedy. Yes quantum/theoretical physics could drum up some crazy calculations that could show the birth of a small black hole but you have to realize the amount of particles they will collide that could collapse in on itself creating blackholes smaller than caviar eggs. Nothing the size that's resulting from a dying star.[/quote]
The theories I've heard saying that mini black holes will destroy the planet stem from the idea that yes, there are cosmic rays constantly creating them everywhere, but the speed of the cosmic rays (and therefore the black holes) is too fast to be caught by gravitational fields. These theorist's fears with the LHC is that the black holes will only be traveling ~9 km/s which is slow enough to get caught in the earth's gravitational field. Unable to escape the earth's pull, the black hole would take approximately 50 months (by their calculations) to consume the matter of the entire planet.
EDIT: Holy shit I just realized that if you believe in the Mayan calendar, exactly 50 months from Oct. 21, 2008 is December 21, 2012, the day their calendar ends. Coincidence??? :shock::shock:
Either way this is gonna be some sick shit.
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Turned on this morning and no problems so far!
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[quote=MJDub;647624]Holy shit I just realized that if you believe in the Mayan calendar, exactly 50 months from Oct. 21, 2008 is December 21, 2012, the day their calendar ends. Coincidence??? :shock::shock:[/quote]
how the hell do u know this stuff? :what
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good website to keep on top of this as it develops
[url]http://www.hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/[/url]
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[QUOTE=MJDub;647624]EDIT: Holy shit I just realized that if you believe in the Mayan calendar, exactly 50 months from Oct. 21, 2008 is December 21, 2012, the day their calendar ends. Coincidence??? :shock::shock:[/QUOTE]
I think that the 2012 year is just a total noob mis-interpretation of the mayan calendar. I mean no one knows their language or hieroglyphs and what we have learnt so far is based on what people have dissected.
iirc the year 2012 is simply the year that the earth finishes a rotation around it's axis, an event that happens once every 25,000 years. And considering the earth has been in existence for the last 3.5 billion years and completed more than a sufficient number of these spins, proves rather clearly that there'd be no reason to get outta dodge
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[quote=tiddles;647711]good website to keep on top of this as it develops
[URL]http://www.hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/[/URL][/quote]
haha
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[quote=Kamal;647719]the earth finishes a rotation around it's axis, an event that happens once every 25,000 years.[/quote]
explain further!
i dont get it. the earth rotates on its axis once a day.:what
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Since a picture is worth a thousand words, here's a cheesy ms paint mock up. this spin takes 25,000 years. Perhaps rotate wasn't the right word but a spin.
for those wanting to watch the live feed, enter the following URL into VLC.
mms://qstream-live.qbrick.com/00862live80910
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but i thought the earth shifted on its axis once every earth year.
cant see the video feed. hence your ms paint mock up hasnt help me much!
sorry mate, your going to have be clearer
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video feed doesnt have anything to do with my ms paint mock up, the video feed is what is happening at CERN right now.
also, I dont understand this
[QUOTE=Dhar_2;647813]but i thought the earth shifted on its axis once every earth year.[/QUOTE]
the earth revolves around the sun each earth year, it rotates on its axis every 24 earth hours, and while the southern axis is fixed, the northern axis rotates and this rotation completes every 25,000 years, that is what I wanted to show in the ms paint image.
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[quote=thesightless;647558]properties of black holes, magnetons, and stranglets dont exactly go hand in hand with life.[/quote]
Maybe just the opposite. Life could not exist without....
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this is interesting. if you know who john titor is
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yea we had a long ass thread in a previous version of MS. I think Palmer started the thread on Titor.
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[quote=Kamal;647803]Since a picture is worth a thousand words, here's a cheesy ms paint mock up. this spin takes 25,000 years. Perhaps rotate wasn't the right word but a spin.
for those wanting to watch the live feed, enter the following URL into VLC.
mms://qstream-live.qbrick.com/00862live80910[/quote]
yeah, not exactly a rotation. Its a "wobble" that cycles every 25,000 years.
WOO HOO!!! I'm still alive today. No black holes came a-knockin on my door this morning!! :D
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hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com
type in your browser to find out
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[QUOTE=raver_mania;647881]yeah, not exactly a rotation. Its a "wobble" that cycles every 25,000 years[/QUOTE]
yea thazzit :p
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[quote=Kamal;647818]the earth revolves around the sun each earth year, it rotates on its axis every 24 earth hours, and while the southern axis is fixed, the northern axis rotates and this rotation completes every 25,000 years, that is what I wanted to show in the ms paint image.[/quote]
ah u see i didnt know that the northern point of the earths axis was in rotation.
i thought that the earth was on a fixed diagonal central axis.
it all becomes clear now!
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^ | yes, and it has to do with the precision of the equinoxes
[URL]http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Precession-of-the-equinoxes[/URL]
another very long cycle in the earth's life is the axial tilt, at 45,000 years.
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_tilt[/URL]
this is all related to Milankovitch cycles, which affect global temperature and ice age trends
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles[/URL] (the numbers are slightly different between the two, but you get the idea).
a great book to read that references Milankovitch and how long it actually took for people to accept his theory is "A short history of nearly everything" by Bill Bryson. read it...one of the best science books ever written.
phew, there is my nerd-fix for the day.
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:Scared:
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i guess this is how some of the more informed esoteric astrologers understand it:
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also:
[URL]http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080427.html[/URL]
[URL]http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/09/080910-collider-success.html[/URL]
EDIT: really over all this 2012 hype as well.
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[quote=Kamal;647596]I'm impressed you're posting something other than politics :p
but in all reality, I can't imagine how it could create a black hole of any significant tragedy. Yes quantum/theoretical physics could drum up some crazy calculations that could show the birth of a small black hole but you have to realize the amount of particles they will collide that could collapse in on itself creating blackholes smaller than caviar eggs. Nothing the size that's resulting from a dying star. Though if they are able to prove the higgs boson particle (or discover the reason at what stage does sufficient amount of matter cause its relative binding to produce mass), would probably be the most incredible discovery of our times (other than finding intelligent life on other planets).
Who knows, them aliens who are billions of light years ahead of our technology might detect the birth of these strange particles thanks to the collision and they might just stop by our way to see wtf is going on in with the Frenchies :lol:
But as far as the big bang goes, I read another theory that explains that there's not just one universe but we live in an existence of multiverses and the collision of gigantic multiverses gives birth to infant universes through.... a big bang[/quote]
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discovering the higgs boson would be amazing. however can you imagine what would happen if they dont discover it, or better yet if they discover it doesnt exist? the ramifications would be insane...
i'm also looking forward to them discovering other dimensions. they already believe (know) they exist and it looks like proving them shouldnt be too far in the distant future...
btw, history channel had a 1hr documentary on it last night... pretty kewl
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i just laughed so hard i pee'd a little.
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[QUOTE=Kamal;647803]Since a picture is worth a thousand words, here's a cheesy ms paint mock up. this spin takes 25,000 years. Perhaps rotate wasn't the right word but a spin.[/QUOTE]
the real cause of global warming!
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