[ms] · Est. May 2002
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Richie Hawton get's down with his equiptment in a selection of videos that can show you many new levels of Dj'ing and production too!
[url]http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=73388562&blogID=428835413[/url]
Here we were just yesterday talking about Richie and the future of DJ'ing and suddenly Richie hears our thoughts and quickly answers. The dude is awesome!
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awesome.
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very cool
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thanks for the links.. will have a look in the next few day's. my internet speed is very slow at the mo :(
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people still use myspace??
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Nice!!
Its been too long since I've seen Hawtin....the last time I think was WMC 2007 - it was Adam Beyer, Hawtin, and some other big techno names. Awesome night/morning of intense music!
He needs to make a DC trip again.
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I love how all you guys think this is great and in other threads you compare it to being a "Software DJ"? what is it because Hawtin is doing this its considered to be ok or awesome??
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Difference being this guy rocks on decks or software, and he's using the technology to push what he does further, like Sasha and his Ableton or Zabiela and Phil K and their CDJs. As opposed to a lot of noob software DJs who (I'm assuming) cop flak for not even knowing how to beat match and relies on the machine to do it so they just line up 10s of intro and outro over each other.
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So if i started djing tomorrow I guess I would fall into that "software dj" montra??
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Well everybody's a DJ these days anyway :NotMe: ;)
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[QUOTE=buckman;642990]So if i started djing tomorrow I guess I would fall into that "software dj" montra??[/QUOTE]
Yes. It's not about what hardware and software you have, its how you use it. Hawtin and many others are pushing the envelope. IMO its not djing anymore, it's producing/performing live...instead of just playing tunes, the sounds and tracks are more instruments themselves rather than songs just being played.
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wonder how much cost all that
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Very impressive shit - an entirely new level.
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Wow that was awesome at so many levels that I don´t know where to start
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hopefully traktor will be my next purshase, i own Torq right now and just based on effects, add ons and shit like that, traktor blows the shit out of every other djing software.
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as long as the term software dj isnt used to belittle the quality of the dj then whatever.
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Why so touchy over this software DJ thing?
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[quote=buckman;643277]as long as the term software dj isnt used to belittle the quality of the dj then whatever.[/quote]
Bro, as long as you are pushing yourself. You should never feel bad about being called a software dj. You can see Richie uses the software to help make his sets even more sick.
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[QUOTE=Digger;643013]wonder how much cost all that[/QUOTE]
Xone 4D DJ Mixer = $2500 - 3000 (the combo package instead of having a mixer + 2 Xone sidewing MIDI controllers)
Apple MacBook Pro = $2500 - 3000 each (decent sized Apple laptop) x2 = $5000 - 6000
NI Traktor Scratch software = $550-$600
I would estimate around $10,000 USD not including all MP3's, tunes, additional software like audio editing, plug-ins, cases, bags, studio structure set-ups.
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this didn't work for me - i got redirected then a blank page :x
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but sounds like i just saved 10000 dollars by not seeing the vid???
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[quote=scifi pi;643346]Xone 4D DJ Mixer = $2500 - 3000 (the combo package instead of having a mixer + 2 Xone sidewing MIDI controllers)
Apple MacBook Pro = $2500 - 3000 each (decent sized Apple laptop) x2 = $5000 - 6000
NI Traktor Scratch software = $550-$600
I would estimate around $10,000 USD not including all MP3's, tunes, additional software like audio editing, plug-ins, cases, bags, studio structure set-ups.[/quote]
He doesn't use the 4D mixer. He uses his customized Xone 92 with the 1D's for his control surfaces, which are much cheaper if you've already got a nice dj mixer.
The 1D can be bought online for [B]349.00 each.
[/B][B][SIZE=2]TRAKTOR 3 Upgrade for TRAKTOR SCRATCH users:[/SIZE][/B]
[B][SIZE=2]€99 / $119 Includes: TRAKTOR 3 software/Manual[/SIZE][/B]
And remember, you can buy a firewire WD 500GIG External for a little over 100$ now. Which should hold all the sound you need for a good 48 hour show. In WAV format.
So I just got the price down quite a bit.
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You're still talking about:
$700 for Traktor Scratch pakage + Traktor 3 $700 for 1Ds $2,000 at least for his custom CTRL 92 $3,000~ per MacBook Pro $1,000 for pair of technics he doesn't use $120 for lacie firewire hd +unknown price for speakers
So if he breaks out his second mbp to use with ableton (even without the 1200s) you're easily talking over $10,000
However, I imagine that he is getting the native instrument software/hardware for free. He does a lot of promo stuff for Traktor/Traktor Scratch on the NI website.
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Richie Hawtins set-up - $10,000 A years supply of testosterone pills to allow beard growth - $500 Listening to [ms] users ague about the cost of something someone else owns - Priceless
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Most dj's already have some of that stuff. But you're not going to find that custom xone 92, as it was customized by his Dad.
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His dad?? I wish my dad would make me something cool.
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Wow. i thought everyone knew about that. Yeah he is even interviewed about that in the hawtin documentary from slices.
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[quote=feather;643297]Why so touchy over this software DJ thing?[/quote]
Ive been seriously thinking about getting back into djing by going the tracktor scratch route.I feel as though if I were to be using that method people would consider me less of a dj simply for using tracktor or tracktor scratch.Not to mention I have a really close friend of mine that uses tracktor scratch.He is using not for the sole purpose of mixing and not on the level of Richie Hawtin.More so to enhance his mixing.
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well i understand where you're coming from. I was just looking over the photos from the mutek festival and it seems that most of the performances there were from people and their laptops. And damn these people make dance music look boring, cause all they are doing is staring at a computer screen instead of interacting with a crowd. If you are using a computer to do your mixing for you, thay you really do have more time to interact with a crowd...but it seems as if more and more people simply don't interact with their crowd. Which is a shame.
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It's a double edged thing. Digweed never interacts with the crowd and he's on decks. Carl Cox is all over the place. Tenaglia has his stupid fog light.
And I've seen Junkie XL press buttons while prancing around like an idiot on stage. But if you looked at Infusion or Underworld, they just do their thing.
So it's not so much about interacting or having more opportunity to interact, it's about multitasking and doing all that layering and editing shit live like.
Besides buckman, you're doing what you do, who cares if people think you're a software DJ? 'Software DJ' is only as bad as you think or other people make it sound to be.
A lot of bedroom DJs or professionals I know have moved on to software, and more of them considering the same route.
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[QUOTE=jeffrey collins;644198]well i understand where you're coming from. I was just looking over the photos from the mutek festival and it seems that most of the performances there were from people and their laptops. And damn these people make dance music look boring, cause all they are doing is staring at a computer screen instead of interacting with a crowd. If you are using a computer to do your mixing for you, thay you really do have more time to interact with a crowd...but it seems as if more and more people simply don't interact with their crowd. Which is a shame.[/QUOTE]
That's the one thing I hate about using Traktor. I sometimes get sucked into my laptop screen when I use it. It gives you so much information to help you create a precise mix that it can become extremely tempting to keep 'visually' checking to see where you are at. In fact, if the laptop is square in front of you it's pretty hard to not get sucked into it imo. With that being said, if you know what you're doing it's probably possible to put together a decent sounding set by just looking at your screen without listening to the music playing.
The point is that with Traktor/Scratch it's important to not become dependent on the screen and instead use it as a tool, in addition to your ears, to make you a better DJ.
...and that's what is great about CDJs, there isn't much to look so your attention is more likely to stay where it should be.
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I thought it was cool :)
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Yeah that's what I dig about cd's too. You know you have at least 3 or so minutes in between songs to interact with the crowd. I know that when I use software, i too tend to keep checking it. Kinda hard NOT to pay attention to what is the brightest thing in the club.