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FAO music pirates

53 durable postsStarted 2007-08-03Latest 2007-12-16
#44704Post 1 of 53

I just found out a friend of mine is being sued for filesharing. pretty shitty, but thems the breaks. [url]http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-vtdce/case_no-1:2007cv00152/case_id-15715/[/url]

[QUOTE]Times Argus Article published Jul 25, 2007 Vt. man sued for illegal music downloads, piracy

Downloading songs such as "Should I Stay Or Should I Go" by The Clash and "Tainted Love" by Soft Cell has a Vermont man facing a federal lawsuit for allegedly illegally pirating music online and sharing it with others.

Several of the nation's leading music recording companies filed a federal lawsuit this month in Vermont against Devin Fitzgerald. The lawsuit does not provide an address or age for Fitzgerald. The lawsuit does state that the recording companies are "informed and believe" that Fitzgerald lives in Vermont.

The court filings also do not indicate if Fitzgerald has been served with a copy of the lawsuit.

The lawsuit is the second in the state the recording companies have brought against a Vermonter. Earlier this year, the same recording companies suing Fitzgerald reached an out-of-court confidential settlement with a Milton woman for allegedly illegally downloading their music and sharing it with others.

The two lawsuits are almost exactly alike, with many of the same allegations of copyright infringement.

Sean M. Gorman of Lebanon, N.H., an attorney representing the recording companies, could not be reached Tuesday for comment. He said in a prior interview in the earlier case that he could not comment on the lawsuits or how a defendant is selected for litigation.

The recording industry has filed scores of lawsuits this year across the country alleging the illegal downloading of online music, according to a report from The Associated Press. During the past nearly four years, the industry has filed more than 18,000 court complaints alleging music pirating, the AP reported.

Warner Bros. Records, Inc., SONY BMG Music Entertainment, UMG Recording Inc. and the Atlantic Recording Corp. filed the latest lawsuit against Fitzgerald in Vermont.

The lawsuit seeks an injunction against Fitzgerald, prohibiting him from downloading their copyrighted music. In addition, the lawsuit asked the court to impose a penalty for each illegally downloaded song by Fitzgerald. The lawsuit does not exactly state how many songs the recording companies allege Fitzgerald downloaded.

The lawsuit does list six songs that the companies say were included on CDs labeled with "proper notices of copyright" and which they say Fitzgerald downloaded.

The six songs, from six different CDs, listed in the lawsuit are:

"Should I Stay Or Should I Go" by The Clash, SONY BMG Music Entertainment.

"Pinch Me" by Barenaked Ladies, Warner Bros. Records Inc.

"The Bad Touch" by Bloodhound Gang, UMG Recordings.

"Tainted Love" by Soft Cell, UMG Recordings.

"Wrong Way" by Sublime, UMG Recordings.

"Heaven Is A Halfpipe" by OPM, Atlantic Recording Corp..

The five-page lawsuit said the recording companies "believe that (Fitzgerald), without the permission or consent of (the recording companies), has used, and continues to use, an online media distribution system to download the copyrighted recordings, to distribute the copyrighted recordings to the public, and/or make the copyrighted recordings available for distribution to others."

The lawsuit added that Fitzgerald's action has caused the recording companies "great and irreparable injury that cannot fully be compensated or measured in money."[/QUOTE] that last paragraph is pretty bullshit imo

#897819Post 2 of 53

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What p2p was he using??

#897820Post 3 of 53

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I don't know yet

#897823Post 4 of 53

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That's why I only down sets and not songs or albums. Pretty shitty tho'

#897829Post 5 of 53

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yeah, let us know what p2p app he was using if you find out. sorry to hear

#897843Post 6 of 53

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how do they localize you? I mean, they can get your computer?s IP number, but... the adress? telephone number?? wtf????

#897846Post 7 of 53

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your IP >> your provider >> you're fucked

kapish?

#897850Post 8 of 53

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^^Exactly....I don't download albums either.

#897852Post 9 of 53

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mmm... the dark side of technology... btw, I don?t d/l albums cause I hate how mp3?s sound... I?m an addict to audio quality

#897877Post 10 of 53

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[quote=KinKyJ;514871]your IP >> your provider >> you're fucked

kapish?[/quote]

and that's only if the provider will give you up...which it seems more and more are doing.

That and don't download crappy pop songs :lol:

#897886Post 11 of 53

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I've never downloaded a song or album in my life...only sets, cos that's what they're there for.Working for a record label i have to uphold at least a [I]few [/I]copyrighting morals

#897923Post 12 of 53

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[quote=tiddles;514838] that last paragraph is pretty bullshit imo[/quote]

Yes, it is absolute BS. Like those five illegal downloads really hurt those major labels. They need to take their whining somewhere else.

#897928Post 13 of 53

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Arrrrrrrrrrrr

#897932Post 14 of 53

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[quote=jarble187;514953]Yes, it is absolute BS. Like those five illegal downloads really hurt those major labels. They need to take their whining somewhere else.[/quote]Myeah, plus the tracks he downed are on 35.000 cheesy Time Life compils anyways, who wants them? :roll:

Then again, if you can't sue 90% of the internet users, some random unlucky bastard has to serve as an example to scare all the bad kids, right? :roll:

#897939Post 15 of 53

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everyone needs to get rid of p2p and get on newsgroups if you wanna do that shit. [url]http://www.giganews.com[/url]

#897944Post 16 of 53

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shit, that sucks

i downloaded sandinista one time... but i actually own the cd too... does that get me off the hook if they come calling?

#897957Post 17 of 53

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[quote=res0nat0r;514972]everyone needs to get rid of p2p and get on newsgroups if you wanna do that shit. [URL]http://www.giganews.com[/URL][/quote]

how does that work - Ive never understood?

#897960Post 18 of 53

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usenet (the service giganews provides access too, and also tons of files and retention because they have a shitload of EMC storage im sure) is like p2p, but since it is hard to use the riaa doesnt go after it since you gotta be a bit of a nerd to use it.

more info here: [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet[/URL]

originally made for scientific/academic chat there is a hierarchy of groups each with a different topic (you can see the text groups at [URL]http://groups.google.com[/URL]) dedicated to science, computers, unix, windows, etc. but when bandwidth got bigger people started uploading and creating binary groups too. so if one person uploads a binary to their news server, that box has x number of peers it sends the file to also so it is like a big spider web. so you just download all your "scientific research" from one place without any pesky snooping from the riaa etc, giganews since they have a shitload of bandwith and retention.

#897964Post 19 of 53

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i should quickly format my disc and hide in woods!

#897978Post 20 of 53

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[QUOTE=peloquin;514977]i downloaded sandinista one time... but i actually own the cd too... does that get me off the hook if they come calling?[/QUOTE]

Gray area, but it's definitely an argument that you could make with a straight face. You're allowed to make a copy of media you own, no question. Especially in the age of digital music, they are functionally the same -- not too much difference between ripping it yourself and d/ling a copy of the exact same thing someone else has ripped. Is that legal? Maybe not within the strict letter of the law, but its a very arguable point.

On the flip side, owning the media doesn't necessarily entitle you to use every copy of the media wherever it may be. Like I said, gray area, although I suspect the RIAA would go for lower hanging fruit.

#897980Post 21 of 53

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what about soulseek guys??!!! i might be in serious trouble!

#898024Post 22 of 53

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[quote=res0nat0r;514993]usenet (the service giganews provides access too, and also tons of files and retention because they have a shitload of EMC storage im sure) is like p2p, but since it is hard to use the riaa doesnt go after it since you gotta be a bit of a nerd to use it.

more info here: [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet[/URL]

originally made for scientific/academic chat there is a hierarchy of groups each with a different topic (you can see the text groups at [URL]http://groups.google.com[/URL]) dedicated to science, computers, unix, windows, etc. but when bandwidth got bigger people started uploading and creating binary groups too. so if one person uploads a binary to their news server, that box has x number of peers it sends the file to also so it is like a big spider web. so you just download all your "scientific research" from one place without any pesky snooping from the riaa etc, giganews since they have a shitload of bandwith and retention.[/quote]I used to use usenet (fuck this sentence, jeez) for my scientific research in the field of massive mamories back in the ol' days of the intarwebz. Never used it for sets though...

#898071Post 23 of 53

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^^ keepin it old skool :RockOn:

#898090Post 24 of 53

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Torrents are usually pretty good for me for getting almost anything (mixingbowl.org is fucking ace for sets), other than that I use eMule every once in a while.

#898135Post 25 of 53

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He deserves it, did you see those tunes he has?!?

#898558Post 26 of 53

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[QUOTE=peloquin;514977]i downloaded sandinista one time... but i actually own the cd too... does that get me off the hook if they come calling?[/QUOTE]Don't know but it doesn't relieve you of owning such faggotry.

#898643Post 27 of 53

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well it sure sucks but...he probably did steal a bunch of stuff and he knows it. Assuming that is the case, I guess he'll have to settle out of court.

#898666Post 28 of 53

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[quote=KinKyJ;514871]your IP >> your provider >> you're fucked

kapish?[/quote]

:lol:

he should get arrested for downloading barenaked ladies...j/k sucks

#898728Post 29 of 53

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Prog kept me out of jail!

In Singapore, they're cracking down big time on the use of bittorrent to download anime (of all things!) because Odex, a local company, has licensed a host of anime series from Japan and they're pressuring the law to clamp down on anime downloaders despite the stuff we download being fansubbed and most of the time, are being screened on free-to-air TV in Japan.

There's this I2P network plugin thingie in Azureus and an option to not connect to public networks that I'm trying to figure out to save my anime-downloading ass.

#898730Post 30 of 53

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Snapping out of "adult" cartoons will save your ass too feather :p ;)

#898731Post 31 of 53

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Is anime not cool around these parts? :oops::lol:

#898733Post 32 of 53

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Only the ones with girls being raped by aliens :lol:;)

#901814Post 33 of 53

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[IMG]http://www.gatsugatsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/wp-content/hokusai_octopus.jpg[/IMG]

Mmmmm tentacles.

#901836Post 34 of 53

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whatever blows your hair back, bro...

#901873Post 35 of 53

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[QUOTE=KinKyJ;515062]I used to use usenet (fuck this sentence, jeez) for my scientific research in the field of massive mamories back in the ol' days of the intarwebz. Never used it for sets though...[/QUOTE]

I get virtually all my stuff off usenet. It's fucking tops. The last time I explained how to use it here Kamal deleted my thread! Apparently using usenet is an illegal activity according to him :lol:

By the way Kinky, the downloading and distributing of sets ain't exactly legal. Granted, you may not be chased, but there's nothing legal about DJ sets. I don't know why so many people think it is!

#901879Post 36 of 53

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I'm gonna see if I can get my anime from usenet :lol:

#901880Post 37 of 53

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While I know nothing of anime I'll bet my house that it will all be there waiting for you. No queues to download, no silly uploading, and it will move at the maximum speed your connection can handle.

I've been using easynews for over 3 years now and have never looked back.

#902127Post 38 of 53

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Hey how do you gus use usenet? Do you use a program to connect to the server to browse these newsgroups?

#902156Post 39 of 53

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Grabit works fine or the newsreader of Outlook Express.

#902170Post 40 of 53

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i use pan, it has a clean interface and is easy to use: [url]http://pan.rebelbase.com[/url]

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