Im having a bit of a battle with these two pieces of software at the moment. I just cant decide which to use i hate to arrange in live so small and fiddley. But on the other hand really easy to use what with the internal routing bouncing clips on the fly. But then it kills my pc because its a cpu hogg Cubase is so cpu friendly you can have a high track count and still scroll through the window without it freezing unlike live i know how to use both pieces of software pretty well. I have tried other demos but im not interested in learning these i also feel cubase has more of a pro approch than abelton but thats just my opinion can anyone help me out here? thanks in advance ps. i like to work in midi and audio

Re: cubase sx3 or ableton live? (help me!!!!!!)

sounds like you already have your mind made up. If you know how to use both of them, than you should choose.

And I never understand these things people say about it being fiddly...what does that mean? I've never had much problems with Ableton at all. Most of the reasons I have problems with it is simply because I don't have enough memory and I'm using a laptop that has a 4500rpm drive instead of the 7200 you get with desktops.

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tbh there are reasons for having both, i preffer cubase for doing the actual writing of music although its been a while since i have written but i can also see a ligitimate use for ableton as well running as a second option

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imo cubase is better, but it's up to you.

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I prefer cubase but I still use Live to manipulate audio samples every now and then. I just export the audio and send it to cubase.

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LOGIC hehehehe

Re: cubase sx3 or ableton live? (help me!!!!!!)

Go SX3 before Ableton. The sound engine in Ableton leaves a lot to be desired. I suppose you could rewire it tho, and bypass abletons mixer...

but Logic Pro leaves 'em both for dead...

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^^^yeah, and it also costs 4 times as much.

Re: cubase sx3 or ableton live? (help me!!!!!!)

too true. too true. But you do get what you pay for when it comes to sound algorithms....

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[quote=psylucas911;522726]LOGIC hehehehe[/quote]

:Respect:

Brand new Logic Studio 8 for only $499.

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Brand new Logic Studio 8 for only $499.[/quote]

and even without dongle so you can guess 8)

Re: cubase sx3 or ableton live? (help me!!!!!!)

defenetly CUBASE!.... ableton hasnt the same quality... you can connect live with cubase. i do that when the track has vocals.. try it!!

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Yup, if you have a Mac, Logic has definitely entered the price game in a big way. For $500, Logic comes so packed with stuff it makes the other apps seem naked. And the interface improvements are huge as well.

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500, you obviously are not speaking about the pro version. So how does the new version differ from the PRO model. I'd like to know because one day I would like to grow from using Live into using Logic.

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^^ The new Logic Studio offers all what the old Logic Pro 7 is offering, but on a much more stable layer. I've heard the code has completely been rewritten.

Other than that, there are a few new programs. For details: [URL]http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/[/URL]

All that for 500 bucks ... instead of the old 999. Off course this will motivate people to step over to Logic Studio ... which implies they need to buy a MAC (which probably is one of Apple's main goals).

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i've heard the real difference between the studio and the pro version. is the amount of plug ins you get with the pro, and some of the things it will do that the lower priced one won't.

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i use Live 7.. u rili don`t need something else.

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^^^^ even for mastering?

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the new 7 is supposed to have a whole upgraded sound engine that is supposed to be really freaking good.

And I've mastered my new stuff with live and some plugins and they come out great. So do James Zabiela and many many other producers.

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thats good info to have, thanks

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you are welcome Steve. Always enjoy talking about gear.

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I got myself Cubase 4 , Educational Edition (Cubase 4 with Student Discount!!). Cost me about €450! Friend of mine uses Ableton 6 and dropped down my studio. He's now seriously thinking about switching to Cubase, since it offers more features. Ableton is very nice to work with Audio files though and friendly to work with :)

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what features could you possibly need in what ableton apparently doesn't offer. I can do everything I need and want to do with Ableton. I've recently just figured out how I can get back into doing looping with my prepared guitar and using multiple loop recordings. Pretty awesome.

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i have now stuck firmly with ableton it gets the job done in half the time sure there are a few things that need sorting but im sure they will come in time ive learned that it anit what you use its how you use it. if you have no ideas but all the kit in the world then your f*&cked

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live 7(only have that unlocked) is essential and fundamental for me atm. but truely what i really need is the steinberg or sony acid. :(

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both live and ableton have the same kind of feel to it but live has a different approach in its matrix which i dont like tbh, i preffer cubase over all but live is far better @ other things but i much admit i havnt used cubase in a long time so i dont know how advanced it has become in comparason

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7.03 is highly unstable.

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^ feel ya on that one man. fucking ableton has really backfired on me. i purchased their bargain buy 6.0.7/free 7 upgrade last year, and its been such a bust upgrading and such. furthermore, i deleted my email inbox which had the email they send me with the serial number in it, and lo and behold i had to wipe my harddrive clean about a month ago cuz it was shot, so i lost that. then i got a new hd and now i cant reinstall the shit cuz i dont have the serial number, call me foolish for not writing it down but wtf. so ya im livid right now, i dont even want to call them regarding the matter yet.

my main gripe tho is the limit ableton has on decoding.

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[quote=w0e & cri5is;621333]^ feel ya on that one man. fucking ableton has really backfired on me. i purchased their bargain buy 6.0.7/free 7 upgrade last year, and its been such a bust upgrading and such. furthermore, i deleted my email inbox which had the email they send me with the serial number in it, and lo and behold i had to wipe my harddrive clean about a month ago cuz it was shot, so i lost that. then i got a new hd and now i cant reinstall the shit cuz i dont have the serial number, call me foolish for not writing it down but wtf. so ya im livid right now, i dont even want to call them regarding the matter yet.

my main gripe tho is the limit ableton has on decoding.[/quote]

i purchased the same thing...cant say i,ve had any problems with it appart from one weird thing when the sample rates way up @ 96...when trying to dj using it and obviously listeing to a track on the side it seems to slow down the whole flow for a second and then go back to normal speed...i havnt had any unstability from it @ all but i,m running a quad core with 8 gig ddr2