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MS BBQ Thread

46 durable postsStarted 2007-04-29Latest 2012-07-05
#41016Post 1 of 46

So April is almost over and there hasn't been a drop of rain in Belgicum and the average temperature was 19?C (night/day combined). In other words, the BBQ season kicked off pretty early this year overhere (I'm really loving this global warming shit :p).

So let's hear it folks, what is your favorite poison for the grill? As for me Thai chicken, merguez, cajun shit, gambas with garlic and sat?s.

Btw, you can find a shitload of bbq recipes [URL="http://www.barbecue-online.co.uk/bbq_recipes.htm"]here[/URL].

#853529Post 2 of 46

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i like true BBQ. i.e., smoking a food as opposed to grilling. dont ever say BBQ down south and just throw a steak on a grill, they legally have the right to shoot you for that.

but as it stands, and we can verify this with newland, the smoked brisket at smoking Als is my all time favorite.

#853533Post 3 of 46

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Overhere they just toss the meat on a grill too. Even on gas powered bbqs (yukkk). I'm with u on the smoking part, just gives a little extra to the meat... Just like a good dose of herbs (basil, rosemary, oregano, thym, paprika, ...)

#853539Post 4 of 46

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we just got ours this year so were still in the experimental stage with it but i,m guessing my neighbours poodle will go down well the noisey fuck

#853543Post 5 of 46

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Here in down south germany we are into steaks. many people around here prefer sausages but I'm more of a steak man. Since my folks were born in russia they often do traditional schaschlik at home which i love, too. The meat is marinated in vinegar, onions and spices, pretty tasty. I also like to grill fish like pike, it develops a nice smokey flavour and tastes really good when done on the grill. Oh man i get hungry...

#853544Post 6 of 46

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marinaded portibello mushrooms

marinade in white white, lil bit of garlic, a few chiili bits and some lemon/lime/orange scrappings.

superb stuff

(pretty much the only veggie dish I like by itself)

#853545Post 7 of 46

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[quote=GLD;481114]Here in down south germany we are into steaks. many people around here prefer sausages but I'm more of a steak man. Since my folks were born in russia they often do traditional schaschlik at home which i love, too. The meat is marinated in vinegar, onions and spices, pretty tasty. I also like to grill fish like pike, it develops a nice smokey flavour and tastes really good when done on the grill. Oh man i get hungry...[/quote] you should try to fling a trout on the bbq. Tastes great with some lemon, onions and garlic. Hungry too now, mrrrrr...

Btw, that schashlik sounds good too...

#853551Post 8 of 46

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[quote=KinKyJ;481116]you should try to fling a trout on the bbq. Tastes great with some lemon, onions and garlic. Hungry too now, mrrrrr...

Btw, that schashlik sounds good too...[/quote]

Yeah my folks toss all kinds of fish on the grill like mad, it's super. Man schaschlik is really good, when the spits with the schaschlik pieces lie on the grill and they spread this wondeful flavour i know I'm home.

#853553Post 9 of 46

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My tip (learned from Gordon Ramsey) is to boil the chicken legs 1st - this does most of the cooking (plus it stops you giving your family/friends food poisoning) and keeps the meat moist. Then you can just flash them up on the BBQ to impart flavour.

#853571Post 10 of 46

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First you'll need a nice fire

[IMG]http://www.mercuryupload.com/images/images/4dymozmvqw5ykyzwwjtk.jpg[/IMG]

Remove some hot charcoals and set them under the grill. You'll need meat of course, here's some lamb

[IMG]http://www.mercuryupload.com/images/images/10jznudon3jimddzk5al.jpg[/IMG]

Now let it cook slowly...

[IMG]http://www.mercuryupload.com/images/images/zowlywozmjizzvrng1hm.jpg[/IMG]

...go get youself a glass of wine and enjoy.

#853575Post 11 of 46

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Definitely Smoked Brisket( 14 hours of smoking)Dr Pepper marinade pull pork sandwhiches Shrimp on a stick

#853581Post 12 of 46

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[quote=hambino21;481149]Definitely Smoked Brisket( 14 hours of smoking)Dr Pepper marinade pull pork sandwhiches[/quote]

absolutly..... nothing like a tender as fuck brisket sando... i might have to get one for lunch

luckily i have a few bbq joints near by so when i need my fix i can get it with very little effort on my part, and having a talanetd chef as a friend who i grew up eating his bbq at tailgates and kegs doesnt hurt either. besides the above mentioned dishes minus the dr pepper (love to try it though)... dry rubded pork ribs, sweet sticky chicken thighs, korean beef Bugogi and lightly buttered sweet summer white corn top the list.... ill think of more if this thread keeps getting bumped

#853584Post 13 of 46

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Just had a cord of seasoned cherry wood delivered for BBQ season last week, so I'm very ready to go. To second what some people have already said, there is a huge difference between grilling and BBQ, the former being cooking meat over high heat, and the latter being slow-smoking it over very low heat.

Favorite all around meat for BBQ would be pork shoulder. Throw it on there with that fat cap up and let the fat render and soak into the meat to keep it moist for the many hours it spends in there. The great thing about pork shoulder, IMO, is that it's so versatile and forgiving. tastes equally great regardless of whether you do it sweet and smoky like they do in KC, mustard-based a la Tennessee or chopped up and mixed with a tangy vinegar sauce and slaw like they do it in the Carolinas, you can always count on pork shoulder to deliver an awesome experience.

Brisket is always a winner as well, and BBQ turkey makes regular turkey seem like a complete waste of time. Really, you could throw a bowl of cereal in the smoker for a few hours and it would come out better.

Love BBQ season. Just love it.

Oh, and BTW, Jenks' Dad's ribs are just off the hook. Totally in a class by themselves... :Respect:

#853604Post 14 of 46

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yea, me being a califoirna boy i dont have shit on a dude from st louis who gets cords of high quality wood delieverd to him specificaly for bbqing, thats no joke

#853610Post 15 of 46

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Low and Slow ...

#853624Post 16 of 46

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You are all making me miss having a BBQ :(

#853625Post 17 of 46

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[quote=beto;481145]Now let it cook slowly...[/quote]Lemme give you a tip regarding that. When you're cooking poultry and pork (or other meat that tends to be/get dryish, it's better to quickly singe the meat on both sides before you continue cooking it (especially when you're cooking/smoking it slowly). The little crust on the outside will prevent the juice (and thus the taste) from escaping from the meat.

@ toasty: seasoned cherry wood? Elaborate please, I normally use a bag of charcoal to fire up the bbq.

#853636Post 18 of 46

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BBQ/Grilling season lasts 365 days a year for us. :RockOn:

#853637Post 19 of 46

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[quote=KinKyJ;481204]@ toasty: seasoned cherry wood? Elaborate please, I normally use a bag of charcoal to fire up the bbq.[/quote]Try wood, dude. ;)

#853649Post 20 of 46

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[QUOTE=KinKyJ;481204] @ toasty: seasoned cherry wood? Elaborate please, I normally use a bag of charcoal to fire up the bbq.[/QUOTE]

"seasoned" wood just refers to it being allowed to sit out and completely dry out for a season before using it. If you just chop down a tree and start smoking with it, there is still a lot of moisture in the wood that prevents it from burning well and can impact an unpleasant flavor.

People use charcoal because it imparts a nice wood-smoke flavor to food, but there's nothing that adds true smoke flavor like building a regular fire with real wood. It's really only practical when you have a smoker with an offset firebox or a grill that is a meter or more over the flame so your food isn't directly over the heat source where it could get nipped by the stray flame.

Different wood imparts different flavors to the meat, and some are better than others. I use cherry (which, is, like it sounds, the wood from a cherry tree) because it has a great, slightly sweet flavor that is subtle enough to allow you to smoke something all day without the smoke flavor becoming overpowering. Oak works well, too, as does hickory, although using hickory for too long can impart too much smoke flavor, IMO -- sometimes I'll do cherry for the whole thing and then finish it with hickory for the last 1-2 hours. Mesquite is a popular smoking wood, too, but I'd never use it for anything that would be in the smoker more than 2 hours, because it has a really strong flavor and it's easy to overdo it.

If you don't want to slow smoke something all day, try throwing some hardwood chips on your charcoal. Soak 'em in water for about a half an hour, then throw them on the charcoal, preferably somewhere not directly under the meat. Adds some great flavor!!

#853651Post 21 of 46

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[QUOTE=KinKyJ;481204]Lemme give you a tip regarding that. When you're cooking poultry and pork (or other meat that tends to be/get dryish, it's better to quickly singe the meat on both sides before you continue cooking it (especially when you're cooking/smoking it slowly). The little crust on the outside will prevent the juice (and thus the taste) from escaping from the meat.[/QUOTE]

thanks for the tip KinKy, I read some time ago that searing is more about flavour than keeping juices inside (and searing an asado/bbq would be considered heresy in Argentina :p ). A [URL="http://www.cookingforengineers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=938"]couple[/URL] of [URL="http://bbq.about.com/od/grillinghelp/a/aa032805a.htm"]links[/URL] about that.

#853653Post 22 of 46

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beef

petrol

food poisoning

good old english BBQ

:RockOn:

#853654Post 23 of 46

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[quote=toasty;481158]

Oh, and BTW, Jenks' Dad's ribs are just off the hook. Totally in a class by themselves... :Respect:[/quote]

:lol: Dad's smoked ribs = science. I'd put that shit up against any award winning joint on the planet.

You're quite the smoker yourself Toasty. rspkt.

Ring me next time you pull some meat off the smoker, living in a loft, i'm definitely missing my grill. It's not just the fantastic meat you get to eat, it's the whole process- a day, some beer, meat, & fire. America Fuck yeah!!!!

#853657Post 24 of 46

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Meat shouldn't be sweet unless you stuff it in a vagina before you eat it.

#853665Post 25 of 46

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[quote=toasty;481228]"seasoned" wood just refers to it being allowed to sit out and completely dry out for a season before using it. If you just chop down a tree and start smoking with it, there is still a lot of moisture in the wood that prevents it from burning well and can impact an unpleasant flavor.

People use charcoal because it imparts a nice wood-smoke flavor to food, but there's nothing that adds true smoke flavor like building a regular fire with real wood. It's really only practical when you have a smoker with an offset firebox or a grill that is a meter or more over the flame so your food isn't directly over the heat source where it could get nipped by the stray flame.

Different wood imparts different flavors to the meat, and some are better than others. I use cherry (which, is, like it sounds, the wood from a cherry tree) because it has a great, slightly sweet flavor that is subtle enough to allow you to smoke something all day without the smoke flavor becoming overpowering. Oak works well, too, as does hickory, although using hickory for too long can impart too much smoke flavor, IMO -- sometimes I'll do cherry for the whole thing and then finish it with hickory for the last 1-2 hours. Mesquite is a popular smoking wood, too, but I'd never use it for anything that would be in the smoker more than 2 hours, because it has a really strong flavor and it's easy to overdo it.

If you don't want to slow smoke something all day, try throwing some hardwood chips on your charcoal. Soak 'em in water for about a half an hour, then throw them on the charcoal, preferably somewhere not directly under the meat. Adds some great flavor!![/quote]

Looks like someone did his homework.

[quote=beanzncheez;481237]Meat shouldn't be sweet unless you stuff it in a vagina before you eat it.[/quote]

I love sweet meat or the combination of meat and sweet sauces or fruit, so good.

#853671Post 26 of 46

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[QUOTE=MusicJatt;481187]Low and Slow ...[/QUOTE]

That's how I BBQ'ed this last Christmas:

[IMG]http://home.earthlink.net/~hypoluxxa/LAstXmas.jpg[/IMG]

#853710Post 27 of 46

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[quote=GLD;481247]I love sweet meat or the combination of meat and sweet sauces or fruit, so good.[/quote]I'm not cuban.

#853723Post 28 of 46

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the st louis boys definalty own this thread, i leave it open but, it seems like for them this is serious buisness, for everyone else its a casual conversation.

#853728Post 29 of 46

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When I was stationed in texas we had these brisket cook offs once a year where we started on a thursday night with a keg, a smoker, the brisket and materials for cooking. I rememebr the first year I attended my team got 4th place out of 15 teams and thats without ever doing it before. I just took advice from all over and put it together. Thats wherer the Dr Pepper marinade came from, I just found it on the internet and added my own flavor. we also took some mesquite and hickory chunks and soaked them in apple juice prior to smoking. 14 hours later and one of the worst pieces of meat on the cow can rival a filet mignon. Not to mention I got paid to stay up drinking and playing beer pong all night. One of the best parts about brisket is a couple of days later, if theres any left you can slow cook it down into BBq sandwhiches. God ,I'm salivating thinking about it.

#853765Post 30 of 46

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[quote=beanzncheez;481215]BBQ/Grilling season lasts 365 days a year for us. :RockOn:[/quote]

its does for me too - the main difference being that I had to BBQ in a foot of snow this February! It was worth it tho!

#853774Post 31 of 46

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^^^ winter BBQs are the bizz, especially the schnaps that goes with it :D

#854043Post 32 of 46

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BBQ/Grilling in the winter does rule. 78 degrees all the way. :RockOn:

#854149Post 33 of 46

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I certainly don't stop bbqing when it gets cold, but I do miss the things that accompany the actual cooking process. Damn thee, Missouri weather!

#854150Post 34 of 46

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[QUOTE=GLD;481247] I love sweet meat or the combination of meat and sweet sauces or fruit, so good.[/QUOTE]

Try this -- when you're doing pork chops, take a slice of apple coated with butter and cinnamon, and toss it on top of each chop while it's on the grill, and cook as you normally would.

#854179Post 35 of 46

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If I want cinnamon on my pork, I'll douse my daughter with some. ;) How bad does the weather get in St. Louis? That's one city I've yet to check out. Seen your airport several times though.

#854185Post 36 of 46

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There's a marinade called Mojo that kicks ass. Its citrus based with a bunch of other ingredients of course.I think it's a cuban thing because it's pretty huge in Florida. My pops cooked a pork roast which he cut open and stuffed with garlic and other shite and marinated it in Mojo Then smoked it, and it was awesome.

#854230Post 37 of 46

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[QUOTE=beanzncheez;481808] How bad does the weather get in St. Louis? That's one city I've yet to check out. Seen your airport several times though.[/QUOTE]

We [B]CAN[/B] get some pretty severe extremes, and can count on a week or so each winter that is fucking freezing (read: below 0 F) and a week or so during the summer that is take-your-breath-away hot (105-plus and humid as hell). Most of the time, though, summer days are in the 90s and winter days are in the teens and 20s, with summer tending to bring the more extreme weather.

Also, we're treated to some really spectacular storms. If you like that sort of thing, spring in MO can be a lot of fun.

#854232Post 38 of 46

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Interesting. One day I'll make it over.

#854290Post 39 of 46

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[quote=toasty;481779]Try this -- when you're doing pork chops, take a slice of apple coated with butter and cinnamon, and toss it on top of each chop while it's on the grill, and cook as you normally would.[/quote]

Sounds great, almost like a winter steak or something because of apple and cinnamon :D

#854325Post 40 of 46

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Man, I could go on and on talking about BBQ. Here's another tip for a really simple but great rub -- mix equal parts of the following:

Ground white pepper Brown sugar Kosher salt Sweet paprika

This is great rubbed on most everything by itself, but I also use it as a base for other more specialized rubs. Might take some of this stuff but add some mustard powder and cayenne, or garlic powder and cumin -- really limited only by your imagination. Rub it on there, wrap it tight, pop it in the fridge for 4-24 hours to give it time to set, and it'll be ready to wow you when you finally do introduce it to the flame...

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