The main difference is in price but what makes one different from the other? Anyone own any/both and willing to tell me?

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[URL]http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/product/details/0,,2076_310069701_310094117,00.html[/URL] [URL]http://www.pioneerprodj.com/gear_random3.html[/URL] I'm sure there is alot more to it but one of the main differences is that you can use an mmc or sd cards with the 1000 to store wave data or cue points. The 800 doesn't have the slot for it. There is links to the pioneer site for your reading enjoyment!

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The pitch control on the CDJ800 is only accurate to increments of 0.05 where as the CDJ1000 is accurate to 0.02

I believe this may have been rectified with the last model of CDJ800 though

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Just want to say thanks to the people who answered so far. The whole reason for this thread was because I have Denon 1000s and there is pitch drift because the pitch slider is in increments of 0.1 Its kind of preventing my mixing from being on point and you can hear mixes b/w tracks slip away; it kinda sucks so I'm looking to upgrade. Has anyone had pitch drift issues on the CDJ800s or has their mixing been great?

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i've had issues with several different pairs of 800's.

one time last november i was using two 800's and one of them seemed to push the track forward even when i dragged the wheel back. very faint but during a mix it can make you sound like a nooB

more recently i used a brand new pair of 800's, the mp3 playing ones, and they were just as solid as the 1000's. i think it boils down to how you treat your gear. ffs dont let those things ride around upside down in the back of your caravan for weeks at a time while your daughters jump on them and god knows what else, and they'll probably work as they should indefinitely.

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[quote=JK224;471611]Just want to say thanks to the people who answered so far. The whole reason for this thread was because I have Denon 1000s and there is pitch drift because the pitch slider is in increments of 0.1 Its kind of preventing my mixing from being on point and you can hear mixes b/w tracks slip away; it kinda sucks so I'm looking to upgrade. Has anyone had pitch drift issues on the CDJ800s or has their mixing been great?[/quote]

Hey mate i have 2 1000's and i dont have that problem. i just have problems with my programming LOL

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and if you're going to be spending that much money on them...even if your slightly sure you might take them out to a gig...Spend 200$ and get some cases for those babies. You'll thank yourself when the cd players are still like new in two years time.

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I have the MK1 800s and just recently played on the MK3 1000s... I am seriously thinking of switching to those... it makes all the difference with the platter and the .02% pitch increment!

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I've played on the 800's (not sure which one), 1000's (all versions), and 200's and would rate them as follows:

1000 by far 200 800.

If you are getting close to spending money on an 800 either go all the way and upgrade to the 1000 imo or go with the 200. If you are willing to try other lines get something like a Denon S5000 (which is one of my fave models) over the 800. I have one CDJ 1000 MK2 and one Denon S5000 and each have their pro's and cons.

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Phil could you elaborate a little on the pro's and con's between the CDJ-1000 and DNS-5000? I have a pair of DNS-5000's and I love them. No real reason to upgrade but I have had very little time on the CDJ-1000 and everyone is raving about them. I'm actually considering it but they are so much more money to boot. One thing I find on the DNS is the cd load feed doesn't always grab the disc like it should and sometimes it kinda needs a bump. Just thought I'd ask...thanks.

Chris-

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[QUOTE=cfowler;479658]Phil could you elaborate a little on the pro's and con's between the CDJ-1000 and DNS-5000? I have a pair of DNS-5000's and I love them. No real reason to upgrade but I have had very little time on the CDJ-1000 and everyone is raving about them. I'm actually considering it but they are so much more money to boot. One thing I find on the DNS is the cd load feed doesn't always grab the disc like it should and sometimes it kinda needs a bump. Just thought I'd ask...thanks.

Chris-[/QUOTE]

DN S-5000 Pro's

• Pitch Bend Option
• Alpha Mode
• Jog Dial (Spins)
• Built Very Sturdy (Heavier than the CDJ 1000) and uses less space.
• Very customizable

DN S-5000 Con's

• No Wave Display (can't tell when the breakdown is going to happen).. This is my biggest gripe with the S-5000.
• Not a fan of the fast forward / rewind button (that toggle switch on top right corner)
• Lack of memory card option
• Really need to read the manual to make the most of the unit

CDJ 1000's

Pro's

• Universal Standard
• Memory Card Available
• Layout isn't very crammed (lots of spacing between buttons, opposed to the tight fit of the DN S-5000)
• Wave Display
• Able to customize the release/start and touch/brake in an easy manner
• Hot Cues

Con's

• Feels a bit flimsy
• No pitch bend option
• Jog Dial can be a pain in the ass

If the Dennon S-5000 had the Wave Display option and a better fast forward/rewind button and memory card, it'd trump the 1000's.

Both are great and I like mixing things up on the different styles, so I can't complain.

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Thanks a lot. That's a HUGE help!

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Phil are you sure the 1000s and 800s don't have pitch bend? I thought that's what the outer rim of the platter was for... slight adjustments to the pitch, forward and reverse.

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one for the CON list on the Denon- if you play out, you'll never see them in a club.

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[QUOTE=Caley Martin;480189]Phil are you sure the 1000s and 800s don't have pitch bend? I thought that's what the outer rim of the platter was for... slight adjustments to the pitch, forward and reverse.[/QUOTE]

I'm talking about pitch bend buttons.... Real quick precise adjustments. Both the CDJ and Denon have it so you can move the jog dial to speed up/slow down the platter.

Regarding Jenks comment. That's true, you won't usually see a Denon at most clubs.

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but that's the same purpose no? both seem just as quick to me...

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[quote=phil;472149]I've played on the 800's (not sure which one), 1000's (all versions), and 200's and would rate them as follows:

1000 by far 200 800.

If you are getting close to spending money on an 800 either go all the way and upgrade to the 1000 imo or go with the 200. If you are willing to try other lines get something like a Denon S5000 (which is one of my fave models) over the 800. I have one CDJ 1000 MK2 and one Denon S5000 and each have their pro's and cons.[/quote]

just curious why you favor the 200's. they do not have a "vinyl mode" so you cant do any scratching. im thinking of investing in a third deck and i was lookin at the 800's.. just curious why you mentioned the 200's.

thanks

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because if you are going to sport the money for the 800s, for vinyl emulation, might as well save a tad bit more and just get the 1000s

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[quote=Caley Martin;484790]because if you are going to sport the money for the 800s, for vinyl emulation, might as well save a tad bit more and just get the 1000s[/quote]

true but again, why do you favor the 200's? sorry to press the issue just wondering you opinion

cheers

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[QUOTE=Ultra Vibe;484943]true but again, why do you favor the 200's? sorry to press the issue just wondering you opinion

cheers[/QUOTE]

Because imo you either save a few hundred and go with the 200's or go all out and get the 1000's. At least for me there's no middle ground. $330 for a CDJ 200, CDJ 800 goes for $700, CDJ 1000 goes for 1,300 at PSL.

It's just personal preference. I couldn't afford a 2nd CDJ 1000 a year back but wanted something more hi-en and am not a fan whatsoever of the 800's so went with the Denon and am quite glad I went that route.

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Let me get this straight, you're recommending the 1000's over the 800's because of price??? Sorry I don't think that's much of an argument. For the price of 1 CDJ 1000 you can get 2 CDJ 800s. "Save a little more cash"??? Try double what you already saved for one when you can have 2.

Some of us don't make enough money to splurge on CDJs but when peeps have some dough for the 800 and askfor an honest to god opinion on the [U][I]performance[/I][/U] and you just bust out the PSSL pricing guide? Sorry but I'm in a position to buy an 800 and lord knows I've scrimped for it. I came here looking for performance opinions and when I see a major debate point just be the price....just annoys me. Money is not the answer to performance.

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I think the point he was trying to make is that if you go ahead and spare the added expense now and just purchase the CDJ 800s, you might find yourself outgrowing them sooner than you think... thus wishing you had gone with the 1000s to begin with.

[U]PERFORMANCE[/U] wise the 1000s are superior to the 800s. I have played on both, and much prefer the jog wheel and brighter lighting/better viewing angle and finer pitch range of the 1000. Compared to the 800, the 1000 is a pro piece of kit. It feels a lot more well put together... and sturdiness is a factor if they are going to be used repeatedly in various environments. And you can get a pretty great deal on MK2 and MK3 1000s now... just check out electronicscity.com (PSSL is not the only place on the web).

That being said, if you just want something for home use and don't necessarily care about the high end characteristics and features of the 1000s, then by all means score the 800s.

From my experience, from personally buying the 800s instead of the 1000s when I had a chance (just to save money), I regretted it a year down the road.

OR fuck both ideas and just get Traktor Scratch and use your existing turntables! (saves money on buying 25542545 CDRs)

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with technology advancing at the rapid pace that it is wonder why just one cdj1000 stil costs 1300 bones? seem a bit pricey.

if you are trying to get something cheaper are the 200 decent?

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Because the Japanese have small penises and want the Big American Penises to buy at full price.

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hmm, the price for Pioneer CDJs in the States is veeeeeeeery low compared to what people are paying in Europe

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i use the 200's and think they are very solid 8)

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mee peeniss iss eh soleeed when play hus musik

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Did you play on the 800MK2 or the MK1? Apparently the MK2's platter is much, much more like the CDJ-1000.

I have the 1000 MK2's... bought them NEW for $929 each. Now the damn 1000MK3 came out and went UP in price. For a few features nobody really cares about...

CDJ-200 is priced right at $350 ish CDJ-800 should be $600 CDJ-1000 should be $800

[quote=Caley Martin;518261]Because the Japanese have small penises and want the Big American Penises to buy at full price.[/quote]

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I have played on 800 MK1, 1000 MK2 and MK3s and I have touched the 800 MK2s in the store...

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[quote=Ryan0751;522302]Did you play on the 800MK2 or the MK1? Apparently the MK2's platter is much, much more like the CDJ-1000.

I have the 1000 MK2's... bought them NEW for $929 each. Now the damn 1000MK3 came out and went UP in price. For a few features nobody really cares about...

CDJ-200 is priced right at $350 ish CDJ-800 should be $600 CDJ-1000 should be $800[/quote]

you can hardly even find brand new 800 mki's or 1000 mkii's any more.. and i feel the upgrades on each fell way short of the new higher price.. christ, the 800's should have at least added the wave read out

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CDJ800 MKII piss all over CDJ200s. MKI of 800 was a bit ropey but I love the MKII.

CDJ1000 MKIII is the best thing to get but I'm not going to fucking buy two 1300 € cd-players just for home use.