So, how much caffeine would it take??

Not sure how these figures were reached, or even the validity of the findings. Just thought this was fun..

[URL]http://www.energyfiend.com/death-by-caffeine/[/URL]

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only 137 cans of red bull...

i'd be curious to see what LD50 they're basing that on

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Is this 137 in an hour? A day? A single night out? What are they basing this off of?!

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^^Exactly.....

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^^^ In order for it to make medical sense, it should probably mean that you'd drink those 137 red bulls in such a time frame so that the active ingredient volume from all of the red bull cans is inside your body at once. So, you'd have to drink em pretty damn fast.

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the only way they'd be able to measure it is a single dosage of caffeine, so it'd be all at once (within like half an hour). pretty sure the amount of liquid you'd need to drink would kill you before the caffeine.

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I inject my red bull. How does this affect the numbers?

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[quote=day_for_night;462583]only 137 cans of red bull...

i'd be curious to see what LD50 they're basing that on[/quote]If it's worth anything, they've based themselves on the MSDS file for caffeine: [URL]http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/CA/caffeine.html[/URL]

[FONT=arial][SIZE=2] ORL-RAT LD50 192 mg kg-1 IPR-RAT LD50 260 mg kg-1 IVN-RAT LD50 105 mg kg-1 IVN-WMN LDLO 57 mg kg-1 ORL-CHD LDLO 320 mg kg-1 ORL-HMN LDLO 192 mg kg-1 SCU-RAT LD50 170 mg kg-1 IPR-GPG LDLO 220 mg kg-1[/SIZE][/FONT]

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yea it's mainly all at once/within a small time frame...although it's pretty spot on on the 1gram bit...shaking/trembling, nerves shattered, hallucinations and the like can happen...you'd need to drop a few caffeine pills to achieve that (most have ~200mg/pill in them), as it would hit you quickly being concentrated vs. liquid in a drink.

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I think it takes over 20 grams, so that's multiple blister packs of pure caffeine pills.

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20g and you'd be long dead...

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[quote=FM;463506]20g and you'd be long dead...[/quote]

not according to these numbers

[quote=KinKyJ;462926]If it's worth anything, they've based themselves on the MSDS file for caffeine: [URL]http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/CA/caffeine.html[/URL]

[FONT=arial][SIZE=2]ORL-RAT LD50 192 mg kg-1 [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=2][FONT=arial]IPR-RAT LD50 260 mg kg-1 [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=arial]IVN-RAT LD50 105 mg kg-1 [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=arial]IVN-WMN LDLO 57 mg kg-1 [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=arial]ORL-CHD LDLO 320 mg kg-1 [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=arial]ORL-HMN LDLO 192 mg kg-1 [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=arial]SCU-RAT LD50 170 mg kg-1 [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=arial]IPR-GPG LDLO 220 mg kg-1[/FONT][/SIZE][/quote]

if you use the IPR-RAT LD50 of 260mg per kg, that means that it would take 20800mg (or 20.8 grams) to kill 50% of a group of 80kg humans. half would survive that dosage, half wouldn't (which is what LD 50 means...what it takes to kill half a population).

there is no doubt though, that it would be an awful way to go. i know what i feel like if i have one too many cups of coffee...can't imagine what an OD would be like.