Anyone seen this yet? WTF?

[url]http://qqq.tmz.com/2006/11/20/kramers-racist-tirade-caught-on-tape/[/url]

We obviously don't know what happened before the cameras started rolling, but I can't think of anything that would have justified this explosive, epithet-filled reaction.

Honestly, it bums me out on a host of different levels. It bums me out to think that someone thinks this is acceptable, period. On a more selfish note, though, I love Seinfeld, and it's going to be tough to enjoy as much knowing that the guy who plays Kramer is a bigot in real life.

Seriously, this is just astonishing.

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yea i heard about that, i would have laughed, but cozmo what were you thinking

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but its okay for black people to say cracker on tv

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I can't see the video (here at work) is it really bad???

I would say it must be becuase it is all over the news but that really doesn't matter much now a days

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next thing you know you can't call a chicken a chicken anymore...

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[QUOTE=DJJEFFJONES;410243]

I can't see the video (here at work) is it really bad??? [/QUOTE]

I would have to say yes. Screaming, "He's a n----, he's a n----, he's a n---" over and over again. Just stunning.

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[QUOTE=sakio pod;410241]but its okay for black people to say cracker on tv[/QUOTE]

personally, I don't even put the two in the same league. I would probably get more fired up over seeing a black guy called the n-word than someone calling me a "cracker." To be honest, I find "cracker" kinda funny.

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i dont know if you got to see kramer and you yell to him that your not funny, you should fuck off.

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that video is all over the news today and on cnn.com, pretty bad stuff. what an idiot. since he sucks too much to come up with any smart ass comment to shut up a heckler he has to just try and cuss him out. he did a good job because half of the crowd is getting up and leaving during the video..

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i'm sure he'll just go buy a fast car to drive away from the guilt in

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^^sorry, his costar jerry already bought up all the porsches in the world :lol:

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[IMG]http://www.leedberg.com/seinfeld/kramer/kramer.jpg[/IMG]

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that vid made my night. :CrackUp: good for kramer. So a black comic can make fun of white people and when a white comic says the word nigga, the naacp is up his ass. that vid was awesome.

come to think of it, did kramer ever have any black friends on sienfeld?

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[quote=lilsensa;410316][IMG]http://www.leedberg.com/seinfeld/kramer/kramer.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

heil hitler nigga!!!!! :lol:

btw, isn't he jewish?

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Seinfeld's on Letterman tonight...let's see what he says.

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[quote=speciale;410317]that vid made my night. :CrackUp: good for kramer. So a black comic can make fun of white people and when a white comic says the word nigga, the naacp is up his ass. that vid was awesome.

come to think of it, did kramer ever have any black friends on sienfeld?[/quote]

no fucking kidding. chris rock please shut the fuck up. learn to laugh at yourselves. i have learned to laugh when you make fun of my race. do the same. the amounts of heckling that went on before the assman (:))said that was not nice, i GUARANTEE you. but they aren't famous so who cares what they say, right?

given he should act like a professional and he did not, there are two sides of the story people.

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yeah, i saw the video and, while shocking, it seems like it was done for just that purpose. i'm so sick of everyone crying racist any time someone says a word. such bullshit.

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[IMG]http://graffitithewritingsonthewall.blogspirit.com/images/medium_the_cos_on_mexicans.jpg[/IMG]

That said, Cosmo's reply: [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aJWPuzpZy0[/URL]

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I saw that last night. The best part is that the crowd was laughing. I think they were expecting this to be a gag.

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he's lost it big time. lol.

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I hope he saved some money.

and whats the deal with the word cracker? Do white people taste like saltines? I don't know.

Out of all the words black people could use on white people, the best they could come up with is cracker? Give me a break.

If people remember a funny show called the Jeffersons, mr jefferson reffered to every white guy as honkey. I didn't see anyone saying anything about that. And mixed couples as zebra :lol:

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[QUOTE=Garrick;410346]no fucking kidding. chris rock please shut the fuck up. learn to laugh at yourselves. i have learned to laugh when you make fun of my race. do the same. [/QUOTE]

There is a difference, I think, between poking fun at racial stereotypes and lambasting someone in a mean-spirited way. This seemed to be very much more like the latter.

Moreover, what the hell is with white people getting pissed off because they can't use the N-word? Why the hell would you want to? The N-word is emblematic of a really unfortunate time in the history of the world, and I, for one, am completely OK with it falling out of common usage.

With all that said, I did have the opportunity to watch Letterman last night and did see the apology. Not that it excuses the act, but I have to say, he certainly seemed sincere and troubled by his own actions. Quite a stretch from the first Mel Gibson apology a little while back. He didn't try to blame anything or anyone but himself, he just took ownership of what he did and offered what he could. It will be interesting to see what comes of this now...

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he seems like this episode fucked him up good. last night he looked like he was about to break.

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[QUOTE=thesightless;410469]he seems like this episode fucked him up good. last night he looked like he was about to break.[/QUOTE]

true -- that was not the look of someone that was just going through the motions.

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[quote=toasty;410464]Moreover, what the hell is with white people getting pissed off because they can't use the N-word? Why the hell would you want to? The N-word is emblematic of a really unfortunate time in the history of the world, and I, for one, am completely OK with it falling out of common usage. [/quote]

makes you wonder why black people use the word all of the time

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When Chris Rock goes into his rants, it's meant as actual comedy. And as close as he comes, I've never seen him cross the line into maliciously slamming people with really ugly racial terms.

Regardless, he's a moron even from just a self-interest standpoint. His career will probably never recover, and rightly so.

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the main thing here is that he said 50yrs ago we would have you hanging upside down. I definitely see that as a bad thing to say to anyone

but saying nigga is no big deal imo

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i'm really enjoying this vid

thanks again

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[QUOTE=speciale;410490]makes you wonder why black people use the word all of the time[/QUOTE]

does it really? Seems pretty obvious to me.

I obviously can't speak for the black community, but when you embrace a term that is supposed to be offensive, it helps diffuse the impact of the word, I think. For example, now that the gay community has embraced the word "queer," it ceases to be as derogatory, IMO.

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[quote=toasty;410501]does it really? Seems pretty obvious to me.

I obviously can't speak for the black community, but when you embrace a term that is supposed to be offensive, it helps diffuse the impact of the word, I think. For example, now that the gay community has embraced the word "queer," it ceases to be as derogatory, IMO.[/quote]

thats not the same. if gays were going around calling each other faggot, then it would be the same

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The discussion imo is not about the WORD, but about HOW it's used.

k niggaz?

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his appology on letterman...

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiuFwmC4qdw[/URL]

guy seemed pretty broken up about it...definitely a sincere appology.

whether he was being sincere cause he honestly didnt mean to say those things, or to salvage whats left of his career, i'm not entirely sure. I have a feeling the guy got into his character mode...essentially kramer uncensored...and then went WAY over the line. Not 100% sure he's a racist...but it wouldnt suprise me if he truly is after the lynching comment.

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its a pretty good act...i like how he stays in character

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you know what? im so sick of ppl playing the racial card..... yes he was dead wrong, but aggravated to it. it brings me back to the nick manicucci thing here in NY.... if you are in a conflict with someone (read fight or fight without violence) you know what, find me someone who would attack.... to be honest, if anyone of any race/religion/ whatever got into it with me, the last thing im thinking of is to be PC. if they were black, yes i would drop the epitaphs, a hasidic jew? yup, count on some shit there. anyone/anything. i.e. i kinda feel where and why he came from.... but fully know its wrong.

to what was previously mentioned.... chris rock, whomever. why is it ok to crack jokes at whitey, but not ok to play on black/spanish/asain ones.? especially in a conflict. the guy was on stage, being heckled, and lost his shit. most people would.

the more we bring up the race card, the stupider it gets. fuck the following/

white trash, whitey, honkey, nigga, heebs, beaners, nips, jips, and whatever else i cant think of that you can. there. i covered the bases. even my own.

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[QUOTE=speciale;410505]thats not the same. if gays were going around calling each other faggot, then it would be the same[/QUOTE]

Well, I think that happens, too. Any of the gay members want to chime in on this?

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"That's why you should keep your mouth shut while a white man is talking."

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[quote=rainman;410533]"That's why you should keep your mouth shut while a white man is talking."[/quote]

:roflmao:

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I LOL'd.

...but I don't think he was joking... :Who:

[quote=Garrick;410346]no fucking kidding. chris rock please shut the fuck up. learn to laugh at yourselves. i have learned to laugh when you make fun of my race. [/quote]

You don't know what you're talking about, CR makes more fun of black people than anyone.

[quote=toasty;410501] I obviously can't speak for the black community, but when you embrace a term that is supposed to be offensive, it helps diffuse the impact of the word, I think. For example, now that the gay community has embraced the word "queer," it ceases to be as derogatory, IMO.[/quote]

^correct^ Women have done the same with the word "bitch"

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lets get the real official list of derogatory terms

ill happily begin.

faggot homo chink nip jap slanteye whitey honkey whitetrash nigger nigga spic beaner palmer dothead spothead towelhead cameljockey dirtyfuckingrussian canadians the swiss lawyer

help. add on.

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If it weren't for YouTube this would be no more than mere hearsay. Everyone is a journalist these days.