Well I'm a big electronica fan and have not posted much on this board for a few years. Anyone else have carpal tunnel like me? Any ways of dealing with it? It does suck when you want to particpate in forums and the like...
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Carpal tunnel?
29 durable postsStarted 2006-06-03Latest 2006-06-06
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do you use a laptop? i find that using the touchpad is much less stressfull on the wrist :)
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[quote=abexman]Well I'm a big electronica fan and have not posted much on this board for a few years. Anyone else have carpal tunnel like me? Any ways of dealing with it? It does suck when you want to particpate in forums and the like...[/quote]
I've had something like RSI a few years ago due to a bad posture at my desk: weird sensation from my polse to my shoulder which would keep me out of my sleep for weeks.
Be carefuyl with that shit dude, you can get an operation, but after that the options are limited if not inexistant.
As you know I'm an OHAS (Occupational Hazards And Safety) specialist and I'm about to get into what we call here "beeldschermwerken" (working at a monitor), the term to group all jobs that have to do with working at a computer all day. I don't really know very much about it yet, but since a fellow MS'er is having problems, I'll speed up the research.
One of the things I CAN tell you is that it's wise to take a break from youre PC every hour.
Is it your mouse hand which is causing troubles or the other or both of them?
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[quote=lilsensa]do you use a laptop? i find that using the touchpad is much less stressfull on the wrist :)[/quote] Carpal Tunnel Syndrome isn't caused by per se by a bad posture. The most important cause is repetitive movements. That's why it's also called RSI (Repetitive Strain Injury). Not only computer workers suffer from it, but also people who perform repetitive movements in their jobs like for instance painters.
Ergonomically adapted input equipment can however relieve some of the pain, this is true, but the strain will stay the same...
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i learned something new today :)
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Dontcha LOVE this forum? ;)
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To give you a little more insight on the phenomenon...
The carpal tunnel is a small tunnel (bone structure) in your wrist where all nerves to your hand pass. Repetitive movements will cause the nerve strands to swell. If they swell too much, the tunnel will become too small and some strands will be cut off by the pushing of the others. This will cause at first a tingling sensation in your hand. But after a while it will propagate to the rest of your arm up to your shoulder.
Don't underestimate this. Even in an early stage (like I had) it will keep you from getting a good night's rest. Whatever you do, no matter how much you twist and turn in your bed, the tingling will keep you awake.
There is an surgical intervention possible which widens your carpal tunnel, but the possibilities are limited. You can widen the tunnel to a certain extent, but once the frontier is reached... Well, pardon me my French, but you're fucked. It will become a life long condition.
I'll do some research on posture, ergonimically adapted equipment and the likes during the days to come and post them here. However, I can't emphasis enough: TAKE A FUCKING BREAK OF 10 TO 15 MINUTES EVERY HOUR when you're working at a pc all day. Really, in Belgium it's even obligatory in some companies. As a consultant in the field and a former patient I wouldn't recommend anything else. This is the basics.
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very informative kinkyJ, thanks bro
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cure: stop wanking 23 hours a day
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What job isn't repetitive? And how is it that not all women have RSI from sucking cock? Think about it.
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[quote=KinKyJ]I'll do some research on posture[/quote]
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[quote=lilsensa]do you use a laptop? i find that using the touchpad is much less stressfull on the wrist :)[/quote]
I took care of my problem too
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i have this problem fro years now... and just got a new job 3 weeks ago, again on computer, with some lame mouse and keyboard, few days later it appeared again, but this time totally painfull.
i was at my doctor, and he said that i am too young to have a carpal syndrom... hellooo
it helps to immobilize your hand in the afternoon for few hours, so it cant move so much, but it is a shit of a state, and if you are building a career in the IT department, sucks, big time.
and i can say that logitech has few mices which really help with this condition. i had at home for 4 years i thnik the mouseman pilot+ or similar, now i think it is something like the [url]http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2135,CONTENTID=10716[/url]
and u need to have as flat as you can get keyboard, sometimes those angled ones are cool too. and of yourse never rest your palms on the desk or keyboard palm rest pad, but in the air over keyboard.
hope this helps a litlle posture definitely doesnt go with carpal sy.,
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I have one of those G7 mice from Logitech. Got it for $18, was a great deal and my keyboard is 0 degrees. I don't have carpal tunnel though so I consider myself lucky with the massive amount of typing that I do. I was taught proper technique with regards to hand, wrist and elbow placement when typing at an early age. Long live the fundamentals. :RockOn:
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I mispoke because I figured people know about carpal tunnel and not RSI, I have RSI in both hands from using a desktop pc. I think it happened from relying on armests too much, was originally a cubital tunnel issue (tunnel in elbow where nerves compress). I use WorkRave (software to remind you to break) and a WACOM tablet instead of a mouse. Have been too disappointed with Voice Recognition to use. I'm still waiting for the breakthrough in mind-to-pc user interface, there is some interesting research going on... or easier arm replacement surgery. Anyone got some good arms to sell?
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A few other things I've found helpful, foam rollers to stretch arms and all over - [url]http://www.power-systems.com/nav/closeup.aspx?c=3&g=1299&Foam/Rollers/6[/url]
kneeling chairs: [url]http://www.sitincomfort.com/kneechairs.html[/url]
and of course electric massagers (not for your balls).
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[quote=beanzncheez]I have one of those G7 mice from Logitech. Got it for $18, was a great deal and my keyboard is 0 degrees. I don't have carpal tunnel though so I consider myself lucky with the massive amount of typing that I do. I was taught proper technique with regards to hand, wrist and elbow placement when typing at an early age. Long live the fundamentals. :RockOn:[/quote]
thats nice, and that G/ is awesome, but here it is around 100Euros, so definitely a great deal for you.
and of course, proper techniques, didnt have that here for ages now....
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[quote=abexman]A few other things I've found helpful, foam rollers to stretch arms and all over - [URL="http://www.power-systems.com/nav/closeup.aspx?c=3&g=1299&Foam/Rollers/6"]http://www.power-systems.com/nav/closeup.aspx?c=3&g=1299&Foam/Rollers/6[/URL]
kneeling chairs: [URL="http://www.sitincomfort.com/kneechairs.html"]http://www.sitincomfort.com/kneechairs.html[/URL]
and of course electric massagers (not for your balls).[/quote]
Those kneechairs are pretty shite when you have to sit on them for a long time. I had one and got rid of it after my back started to hurt like a mofo from sitting on it...
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^^ Yeah. You have to keep your back very straight while on those chairs, otherwise you feel the "burrrrrnnn" early on. Good luck keeping proper posture on one of those allllll day looooonnng.