your advice please

Google it up

notepad :shock:

Dreamweaver, Flash and/or Swish

Golive & Dreamweaver. The TWO best progs.

Dreamweaver.

Best way to jump out the window? = Frontpage!

easy way = do something ugly but fast in dreamweaver (visual mode) best way = learn some html and css (google for newbie tutorials) and then code it up on any text program or better some software that uses colors for better code viewing and comes with some pretty functions to make things faster/easier, like UltraEdit or even dreamweaver (homesite/code mode)

g'luck

(html is not that hard, learn the code it'll help yopu do what you really want to do, instead of what some software thinks you're trying to)

dreamweaver :)

phone a friend!

but seriously, i use notepad as well. but that only works if you know how to code raw HTML. i'd prob be using DW if i could find a way to justify purchasing a copy through work.

Re:: Best way to produce web pages

With Dreamweaver.

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i agree that learning html is essential.. along with learning other prgramming. But, using an html editor such as dreamweaver is a good tool to learn html since it gives you the code for whatever actions you take.

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find a site you like. download it. open the page. view source. change the text and / or graphicsto what you want it to be. upload new page to your host. done.

a new site in the time it takes to make a cup of tea.

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[quote=harry ramsden]find a site you like. download it. open the page. view source. change the text and / or graphicsto what you want it to be. upload new page to your host. done.

a new site in the time it takes to make a cup of tea.[/quote]

aaaaa.... little leecher.... :HolyShit:

dont do it ! where is the creativity ? :roll:

Read some stuff about html and css at [url]www.w3schools.com[/url] , for example.

Then get yourself 1st Page HTML redactor (really an imporved version of notepad, with pretty coloring) and create.

Get First Page at [url]http://www.evrsoft.com/1stpage2.shtml[/url]

Oh and some graphic program like Photoshop would come in handy too.

Read some stuff about html and css at [url]www.w3schools.com[/url] , for example.

Then get yourself 1st Page HTML redactor (really an imporved version of notepad, with pretty coloring) and create.

Get First Page at [url]http://www.evrsoft.com/1stpage2.shtml[/url]

Oh and some graphic program like Photoshop would come in handy too.

Essential Tools = Photoshop & Decent Text Editor IMO

Photoshop is used for creating basic design - the "save for web" function is a God send, will automatically generate a basic layout for you from your graphics, nice clean code too with the choice of tables or CSS for layout - saves hours compared to doing it manually. Getting the full packages isn't necessary, PS Elements gives you all the functionality you need.

I was always a hardcore "code only evangelist", but having started maintaining a large university website, I've really seen the advantage to having a program like Dreamweaver, not only for WYSIWYG design, but mainly for it's superb template engine and site management tools. However, for smaller sites it's really not necessary.

Macromedia Contribute is also a great tool for allowing clients to update their own site without needing to know any HTML.

[quote=kernsa]Read some stuff about html and css at [url]www.w3schools.com[/url] , for example. [/quote]

:RockOn: Great tutorials for beginers. Certainly a place to start. Then, when you get what it's all about, you could get yourself some WYSIWYG editor just to see what it CAN'T do. :P And further:

[quote=ian]Essential Tools = Photoshop & Decent Text Editor IMO [/quote]

:RockOn: Photoshop with ImageReady. (you can get the trial version on [url]www.adobe.com[/url] ) Didn't know it was so great until I tried. But still, it's good to be able to look into the code created by IR (or any other program) and change whatever you don't like. So head to [url]www.w3schools.com[/url]

And, if you really would like to use Photoshop there is one slight problem - you need a goog machine, with looooads of RAM.

I agree, definitely lean the code and get a good graphics editor. i use notepad/UltraEdit and phtoshop/image ready

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great stuff. thanks to all!

Dreamweaver, imageready, html and css knowledge, and fireworks. -mark

what about Adobe Premiere, Golive, ColdFusion and Fireworks. Anyone tried any of those?

[quote=element86]what about Adobe Premiere,[/quote] For web design?!

So what's the thoughts on .php?

Seeing a lot of those sites popping up

Fad or revolution?

Can you make those types of sites in GoLive, Dreamweaver, etc?

I know Dreamweaver has support for PHP, but I've never used it for that. I've done some PHP sites, I just use PHPedit - a text editor designed for PHP.

I couldn't compare it to any other Server Side language, cos it's the only one I've used, but it seems pretty solid.

[quote=beto]easy way = do something ugly but fast in dreamweaver (visual mode) best way = learn some html and css (google for newbie tutorials) and then code it up on any text program[/quote]

what is css? i have looked up on the internet. is this it? [url]http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid26_gci211749,00.html[/url]

if so, i dont understand much. is it a type of code? sorry for stupidness...

[quote=ian][quote=element86]what about Adobe Premiere,[/quote] For web design?![/quote]

shit i confused.

but anyway, what about Golive and Coldfusion?Anyone used them? Whats the difference between those and Dreamweaver?

[quote=element86][quote=beto]easy way = do something ugly but fast in dreamweaver (visual mode) best way = learn some html and css (google for newbie tutorials) and then code it up on any text program[/quote]

what is css? i have looked up on the internet. is this it? [url]http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid26_gci211749,00.html[/url]

if so, i dont understand much. is it a type of code? sorry for stupidness...[/quote]

the page you've found there is right so far. in short it's just one piece of data in which is for example defined, what font color, font size, font type, background color, etc you use on your page.

it is just faster than write the code for all that on every page again and again. so, you'll just have to define it once. :wink:

damn, my english sucks :Rolling:

[quote=mario belter][quote=element86][quote=beto]easy way = do something ugly but fast in dreamweaver (visual mode) best way = learn some html and css (google for newbie tutorials) and then code it up on any text program[/quote]

what is css? i have looked up on the internet. is this it? [url]http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid26_gci211749,00.html[/url]

if so, i dont understand much. is it a type of code? sorry for stupidness...[/quote]

the page you've found there is right so far. in short it's just one piece of data in which is for example defined, what font color, font size, font type, background color, etc you use on your page.

it is just faster than write the code for all that on every page again and again. so, you'll just have to define it once. :wink:

damn, my english sucks :Rolling:[/quote]

haha, thanks a lot for the explanation

[quote=element86][quote=ian][quote=element86]what about Adobe Premiere,[/quote] For web design?![/quote]

shit i confused.

but anyway, what about Golive and Coldfusion?Anyone used them? Whats the difference between those and Dreamweaver? [/quote]

anyone know this?

GoLive is made by Adobe Dreamweaver is made by Macromedia...

They both do the same stuff, but in different ways.

If you are really comfortable with Photoshop and InDesigne, GoLive will make more sense to you...

If not, Dreamweaver may appear more intuitive.

[quote=ian]I was always a hardcore "code only evangelist", but having started maintaining a large university website, I've really seen the advantage to having a program like Dreamweaver, not only for WYSIWYG design, but mainly for it's superb template engine and site management tools. However, for smaller sites it's really not necessary. [/quote]

whats WYSIWYG design?

What You See Is What You Get

In other words, when coding your site you can see the changes live as you make them.

[quote=ian]What You See Is What You Get

In other words, when coding your site you can see the changes live as you make them.[/quote]

ok..so like Frontpage? That you change a font in the HTML code page for instance and then you see how your website's font changes?

Yeah, very similar to Front Page, although Dreamweavers code is a lot cleaner and more like what a real person would program - Frontpage can sometimes go way over the top on unnecessary tags!

[quote=ian]Yeah, very similar to Front Page, although Dreamweavers code is a lot cleaner and more like what a real person would program - Frontpage can sometimes go way over the top on unnecessary tags![/quote]

could you please give an example of those unnecessary tags? like when does frontpage exaggerates?

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Here is a table tag taken from a page I know was done in Front Page. As you can see it's given it loads of attributes, most of which are on default values. Front page just isn't that smart at knowing what attributes are needed and which ones aren't - on a large page it can actually make a difference in how fast it loads up if viewed on dial up connection.

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111" width="200" id="AutoNumber1">

Guess it looks like Dreamweaver is the kiddy!

H

fireworkz for the desing, and them dreamweaver.

know your code so you can use a wysiwyg (preferrably golive and dreamweaver) efficiently.

thanks for the tutorials posted here ;)