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^^ :lol:

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[QUOTE=Jenks][img]http://www.toadywonders.com/images/GoodTimes/MacSuck.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

That machine came out in 2000.... get a fucking clue.

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iHere's a iclue iPotato, it's a igeneral istatement about apple, read between the ilines.

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[QUOTE=Kinetic]Also, I have a bunch of self-made loops which I don?t mind sharing or even just giving away...maybe someone will be inspired..

I?ve been into this shit for 2 years and I?m the biggest victim of what I?ve talked about that you could find : I wasted so much time just trying out sequencers, synths and effects, that all I ever completed was that track...for the past few months I?ve been into DJ?ing with Live (there?s a set of mine in the Members section), but I certainly intend to get back to producing.[/QUOTE]

hehe, 3 years into it .. and uhm 15 tracks finished (well sorta, they never really are finished) and then uhm .... 150 + unfinished loops

thats what you get when trying different plugins and sequencers each time, or when trying to find the right sample for that track :)

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[quote=khilla]hehe, 3 years into it .. and uhm 15 tracks finished (well sorta, they never really are finished) and then uhm .... 150 + unfinished loops

thats what you get when trying different plugins and sequencers each time, or when trying to find the right sample for that track :)[/quote]

Totally...it took me so long to settle down and finally invest in something...

I remember I had another finished one, which I based around a recorded angry phone call from one of our clients, but I can?t find it anywhere. And right now I have a half-finished in Ableton, which has been like that for months.

This shit requires dedication man, and with 2 kids, a wife and a full time job, it?s just real difficult...but I have fun, which is what I look for in this anyway.

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thought I'd share the track we "sorta" put together

[URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/shares/Harold_&the_Kumars-Black&White.mp3"]http://www.mercuryserver.com/shares/Harold&the_Kumars-Black&_White.mp3[/URL]

did that in about 2.5 hours. No where near complete and I'd defo edit out a few parts but a treo put it together so thats how it sounds now..... had a blast making it

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K, what did you guys use to put that together? Thats unbelievable that you got that far in just 2.5 hours.

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I have to chime in here. It does take some dedication!! At least I think that's what it is. I'm in the same boat having tons of 'just started' songs or just loops, with different plugins, different drum kits, different soudns tempos, reverbs compressors ideas every single track is different and not finished. Ahh!!!

Now I bought some new equipment... but hopefully I can find a few things that I like using, and use them effectively and easily. that's my goal. To work better...

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Hey Sunny, thanks for that.... as far as I remember, just Logic :lol:

Though we did fool with the M-Audio keyboard a bit to get a few of the rolling basslines too

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FWIW...

pick one program and get good at it. it doesn't matter if it's logic, cubase, reason, whatever. you don't need a 3 thousand dollar mac to produce bombs tho. i know some big producers that use mid range dell laptops and fruityloops and record labels are eating up their tracks, and record stores are selling out of them. It's a matter of picking a program and getting good at it. Once you can run all over that program like it's your living room, and you're exhausted, then add bells and whistles and start upgrading.

I'd love to have a mac. Certainly can't justify the price tho when i've seen what half the money can do.

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i was able to get my mac on a major discount (it was a floor model) and got logic used for very cheap.... so i lucked out :)

here is a song i just did....bear in mind i am learning :oops:

[url]http://www.scdmusic.com/skimming.mp3[/url]

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Ok Kamal here´s the track. With my usual modesty, I called it "Genius at Work"...

[URL="http://download.yousendit.com/16BB39B946B76C58"][COLOR=#0000ff]http://download.yousendit.com/16BB39B946B76C58[/COLOR][/URL]

Btw, I know it´s cheesy as hell, no need reminding me. I thought about remastering before posting it here, since I now a bit more and have better plugins, but that would be cheating, so it´s just the same as 2 years ago...

All I remember is that I did it in about one week, I used Ableton Live 4, a synth called Vanguard, and the rest I don´t remember.

The only thing I´m proud about it is that it´s 100% me, no loops and I actually wrote and played the melody that comes in at 3:41.

Everything else...well, let´s say that I would never do a track like this today...it would still be crap, but at least it wouldn´t be cheesy...

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I know now is a good time to enable "attachments" in the production forum. I'm gonna download both those tracks and give you $0.02

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i've also just moved to mac's just for logic to produce got to say i now love them and dont want to touch a pc ever again windows is just plain shit to the osx.

mac's are not faster they are just smoother.

i didnt even know how to install things on the mac when i got it everything is diff to pc but i got this [url]http://www.macprovideo.com/browse/logic[/url] which helps alot for a new to logic user

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[quote=ShawnD64]here is a song i just did....bear in mind i am learning :oops:

[URL="http://www.scdmusic.com/skimming.mp3"]http://www.scdmusic.com/skimming.mp3[/URL][/quote]

Not bad, though I assume this track is still in the works.... the bassline flows well through the song bit it seems to overpower the most of the track i.e. its the dominating element of the song making it.... kinda monotonous....

[quote=Kinetic]Ok Kamal here?s the track. With my usual modesty, I called it "Genius at Work"...

[URL="http://download.yousendit.com/16BB39B946B76C58"][COLOR=#0000ff]http://download.yousendit.com/16BB39B946B76C58[/COLOR][/URL]

Btw, I know it?s cheesy as hell, no need reminding me. [/quote]

ok I wont remind you :p it is Anthemish... I'd add some reverb to the synth and tone the "highs" of the synth to muffle the sound. I like your use off effects sudden halts in the track and it resumes just as well. Pretty good

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I wonder where all this will stand once apple abandons it's OS and runs on Windows? Does this mean there will once again be a Windows version of Logic?

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[quote=Kamal]ok I wont remind you :p it is Anthemish... I'd add some reverb to the synth and tone the "highs" of the synth to muffle the sound. I like your use off effects sudden halts in the track and it resumes just as well. Pretty good[/quote]

Pretty much spot on! :D the reverb thing...well, I didn?t use any on the whole track! That?s great if you?re doing techno, but light-trance? No way...as for the synth, that?s just crappy EQ?ing.

But to me the worse thing is the kick...it?s doubled...I used 2 different kicks and tried to EQ them so as they would seem like a massive one, but I did a crappy job of it.

Back to topic, here?s my current "kit-list", just to reinforce the point that you should try to limit yourself to a few tools and learn them well...and sometimes limitations stimulate creativity :

Ableton Live 5 + Operator - Sequencer (and main soft-synth) Acon Acoustica - Audio Editor Arts Acoustic Reverb - well...reverb Dubstation - Delay CamelPhat3 - mlti-FX (mainly compression, distortion, warming and filtering....) Blockfish - Compressor (free) Floorfish - Gate (free) Spitfish - vocal de-esser (free) Dominion - transient shaper, saturation (free) Endorphin - multi purpose compression (free) Liveslice - beat slicer/arranger Lucifer - fuck shit up/multi-fx/glitch Colortone Pro - "flavour" plugin Posihfopit - EQ (free) MicroTonic - Drum machine/bass synth Spectralive - exciter/mastering plugin Vanilla compressor - sidechain compressor (free) W1 Limiter - well...limiter (free) WiderBoy pro - Stereo widening plugin.

then I use 2 Behringer MIDI controllers, the BCR2000 and the BCN44...and I?m gonna be checking out a few MIDI keyboards this weekend, actually! ;)

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I would actually stick with an older g5 Imac as they are still pretty freaking awesome. you can get one now for about 8-900$ with 2 gigs of ram, which is enough to run anything. Logic is the most insane music program this side of protools. I'd say start with Ableton Live 5, as it's an awesome program, very easy interface and quite easy to get some awesome stuff out of.

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Easier than me?

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well now mike. I really don't know bro...i don't think anything could be easier than you man!

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:Anal:

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Kamal - Anal - Kanal

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how un-original

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how un-original

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:)

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Pro tools is shite. At least for dance based stuff, unless you have all outboard stuff and you are bouncing it into pro tools then pro tools is certainly not the choice for dance music. I have LE and use a TDM system from time to time and think it is great for band recording but not so good for dance stuff. Even the band recording stuff I am starting to use logic pro 7 more and more, It can do all pro tools does plus More but sometimes you have to do things in a round about way.

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[quote=djsleepless]Pro tools is shite. At least for dance based stuff, unless you have all outboard stuff and you are bouncing it into pro tools then pro tools is certainly not the choice for dance music. I have LE and use a TDM system from time to time and think it is great for band recording but not so good for dance stuff. Even the band recording stuff I am starting to use logic pro 7 more and more, It can do all pro tools does plus More but sometimes you have to do things in a round about way.[/quote]

Agreed...PT ain´t bad for tracking bands and pure audio mixing/mastering but the fuckin´ industry is all about standards and Digidesign have made sure that they´re still THE standard. The tide is turning though...

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[quote=Kamal]Not bad, though I assume this track is still in the works.... the bassline flows well through the song bit it seems to overpower the most of the track i.e. its the dominating element of the song making it.... kinda monotonous....[/quote]

yes it is in the works, thanks for listening :) yes the bass is the dominating element, monotony is always my problem :x

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make sure the bass is in mono, or it won't cut into vinyl the correct way.

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Kamal...IMO, get a nice dual core pc and save some $ for gear....bc you'll need it. I was at the crossroads between buying a new Mac + Logic Pro 7 vs. PC. I decided to go with PC and Cubase SX3. At the end of the day, they'll do the same tasks, it's just how you prefer the workflow. People can talk all the smack they want about Cubase/Nuendo, but people tend to forget they invented VST and pioneered computer based sequencers back in the Atari days. We're talking over 20 years of R & D. Apple didn't create Logic...they bought eMagic a few years ago. It's a good product, but I'd rather save several thousands and use it toward a nice mixing board, monitors, etc.

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another 2 cents...if you decide to go with Logic 7, don't get the academic version bc you won't be entitled to future versions.

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don't forget that logic will be a universal binary by the years end too. as will all mac software. it has to be a universal binary...that is going to make shopping for music software so much better in the future.

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I'm not staying awake of the cubase <-> logic story. A lot of pro's seem to go for logic, but if you know that a guy like Pole Folder is a dedicated Cubase user, you can't make a wong decision. I have tested cubase sx3 for some months now, and I'm very pleased with it. I heard Logic has more and better plugins ... well if you really need them, then it's an advantage. I have a hardware synth, groovebox and keyboard, well these are my best plugins ;)

Dilemma's like PC <-> Mac can go on for months, I'm speaking for myself now :). I decided a few months ago to build a brandnew dedicated music production computer. I first intended to go on MAC, cause the MAC mini seemed to be a cheap solution. However, after reading info on the steinberg website (where you have a decent hardware review, incl. CPU recommendations for the use of cubase), I came back from the mac mini idea. On the contrary, I got interested in AMD ... from everything I was reading about it, best value/money cpu on the market. The day I wanted to go to my local computer store, I read that AMD processore prices would have a serious price cut, after introducing Intel's core duo. So I decided to wait and indeed, recently, AMD cpu prices have almost been halvered. In the meanwhile, one of the guys of my music store tried to convince me to go for the newest iMAC :what Indeed, MACs look nice, just one big screen (no extra case), run smoothly, stable and silent, no driver issues (but I've hardly had any PC issues either) ... but the price remains high. Actually I could afford a new MAC, but I refuse to give out more money than needed.