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the new Tool album is finally upon us...

64 durable postsStarted 2006-02-28Latest 2006-05-02
#583367Post 41 of 64

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[quote=day_for_night]tool is far from self depricating music. they're a mindfuck, thats for sure, but they have many varied themes...everything from evolution to mathematics. they chose the name 'tool' as they wanted to have their music used as a tool to open and expand conciousness.[/quote]

Go and really listen to their lyrics, they are self depreciating. Everything from their last album was messed up. Along with the one before that. It seems as if their songs are about them really wanting to kill themselves.

Great pics of the liveshow.

#583371Post 42 of 64

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best visuals i have ever scene was at a tool show....those guys are phenominal...probably the best heavier band i have seen live....they seem like perfectionist....u could barely tell they were playing live...it was so mistake free.

#583392Post 43 of 64

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that's what happens when you practice your asses off and play a ton of gigs.

#583493Post 44 of 64

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[quote=jeffrey collins]Go and really listen to their lyrics, they are self depreciating. Everything from their last album was messed up. Along with the one before that. It seems as if their songs are about them really wanting to kill themselves.

Great pics of the liveshow.[/quote]

I don't know if you've noticed, but i'm not exactly a casual observer of the band. been a fan for more than a decade

maynard is completely anti-suicide as seen in his lyrics from the apc song 'the outsider' [quote]Disconnect and self destruct, one bullet at a time What's your hurry, everyone will have his day to die If you choose to pull the trigger, should your drama prove sincere, Do it somewhere far away from here[/quote]

secondly, i have read all their lyrics many times as well as having researched their meanings. here are some from the two albums you mentioned...

[B]the grudge[/B] Much as "Eulogy" is very subjective, this song can be interpreted to be about any two people who have had a falling out. It is not officially about any two people.

specific lyric analysis:

where he sings "saturn ascends, comes back round again" -saturn ascending is an occult philosophy/astology idea that is summed up by "Ascending to Saturn, we increase our understanding of spiritual goals and intentions. We realize why we act for what is best for the evolution of the world, and not for our own good. . . . Our past life is seen as a reproach. We become painfully aware of our failure to live up to our intended goals. " As well, saturn ascending is involved with life changing experiences.

  • a scarlet letterman: a literary reference to a book by Nathaniel Hawthorne called the scarlet letter...unable to forgive someone who has branded you as something negative.

[B]Schism[/B] is about the separation of the catholic and orthodox churches, and a theme of reconcilliation (which is present throughout the album).

[B]parabol/parabola[/B] a mathematical shape, its thought that the title implies the shape of two bodies together, as in the lyrics of the song.

[B]Lateralus[/B] The Lyrics of the main "chorus" of Lateralus are phonetically spoken (sung) in the fibonacci sequence (we all should know the fibonacci sequence thanks to sasha and bt)

Black | 1 Then | 1 White are | 2 All I See | 3 In my infancy | 5 Red and yellow then came to be | 8 reaching out to me | 5 Lets me see | 3

There is |2 So | 1 Much | 1 More and | 2 Beckons me | 3 To look through to these | 5 Infinite possibilit*ies | 8

As below, so above and beyond, I imagine | 13 Drawn outside the lines of reason | 8 Push the Envel*ope | 5 watch it bend | 3

what maynard had to say about the album: "Lateralus itself is actually a muscle and although the title does have something to do with the muscle, it's more about lateral thinking and how the only way to really evolve as an artist -- or as a human, I think -- is to start trying to think outside of the lines and push your boundaries. Kind of take yourself where you haven't been and put yourself in different shoes; all of those cliches" ----doesnt sound very suicidal, now does it??

i could do Aenima, but i'm too tired right now...

ohh, and alot of that was taken from the tool faq, as well as some of my own reasearch

#583503Post 45 of 64

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^^^^^^ dude! thank you so much for saving me all that typing, i noticed that comment also and was about to break it apart much the same way you did. Tools lyrics are about anything BUT suicide, where someone would get that notion from is beyond me. If anything their lyrics are about staying alive and exploring life and our humanity. :D

#583508Post 46 of 64

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[quote=day_for_night]

[B]Schism[/B] is about the separation of the catholic and orthodox churches, and a theme of reconcilliation (which is present throughout the album).

[/quote]

im going to have to disagree here, schism is about speration of people. it was inspired after aenima the band went through a rough time when their former label got brought out by another label and the new label created a TON of legal trouble for the band, so there was a long period of lawyer, court dates, etc. etc. and the bands communication at one time droped to zero. this is noted in the lyrics

"cold silence has a tendacy to atrophy any sense of compassion" "between supposed brothers/lovers"

Schism is about falling apart and bringing things back together ("rediscover communication") and comming out stronger.

  • i should note, no tool song is about any one thing, but its all in how the person interprets it, i just dont think theres any way schism can be interpreted as a reference to the great schism of the catholic and orthodox churches.

:D

#583515Post 47 of 64

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You guys bring up very good points. Before I was a Tool fan I thought all of their songs where about hating yourself and everyone else. As I've gotten more into them I have found that could not be more untrue. The intelligence and multiple meanings that go into their songs and lyrics is astounding.

#583523Post 48 of 64

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[quote=anonin]im going to have to disagree here, schism is about speration of people. it was inspired after aenima the band went through a rough time when their former label got brought out by another label and the new label created a TON of legal trouble for the band, so there was a long period of lawyer, court dates, etc. etc. and the bands communication at one time droped to zero. this is noted in the lyrics

"cold silence has a tendacy to atrophy any sense of compassion" "between supposed brothers/lovers"

Schism is about falling apart and bringing things back together ("rediscover communication") and comming out stronger.

  • i should note, no tool song is about any one thing, but its all in how the person interprets it, i just dont think theres any way schism can be interpreted as a reference to the great schism of the catholic and orthodox churches.

:D[/quote]

i read a very compeling argument that the song had religious undertones...i'll have to try and dig it up.

#583526Post 49 of 64

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a lot of their songs have very anti-religious lyrics (opiate and eulogy come straight to mind)

#583542Post 50 of 64

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[quote=peloquin]a lot of their songs have very anti-religious lyrics (opiate and eulogy come straight to mind)[/quote]

again...not true. they are against what has been done in the name of religions and the corruption of the ideals of the religions for personal gain.

i have a live recording from philly in 11-23-96 right before they play "Opiate" where maynard says...

"ever heard of jesus, or buddah, or krishna, or mohammed...any of those guys? they had some pretty good ideas, then their agents started trying to make some money on them and fucked everything up. never trust an agent. this song is about those 'agents' "

#583554Post 51 of 64

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Hey, he's got a point. :D

#587258Post 52 of 64

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here is the official tracklisting for the new album, 10,000 days

Vicarious Jambi Wings For Marie (Pt 1) 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2) The Pot Lipan Conjuring Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) Rosetta Stoned Intension Right In Two Viginti Tres

#590694Post 53 of 64

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Cool, can't wait to hear it!!! :RightOn:

#590709Post 54 of 64

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Thank you! Fucking Yay!!

#595432Post 55 of 64

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[img]http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000EULJLU.01.AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_V55756642.jpg[/img]

fuck ya

#595433Post 56 of 64

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Yep...how Tool-esque is that cover?? :RockOn:

#595844Post 57 of 64

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ive heard that tool is playing at coachella, i havent seen any formal anouncement from their website, anybody hear anything about this. i definitely wont be going because of paul oakenfold, haha

#595859Post 58 of 64

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I've been looking forward to this for so fvcking long. Can't wait for this one. Or for the innevitable tour that will follow this summer, I haven't seen Tool live in as long as its been since there last album.

#598684Post 59 of 64

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[quote=jay813]ive heard that tool is playing at coachella, i havent seen any formal anouncement from their website, anybody hear anything about this. i definitely wont be going because of paul oakenfold, haha[/quote]

yes they are playing coachella

#624074Post 60 of 64

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leaving for best buy now to pick this up, YES!!!!

#624083Post 61 of 64

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yeah i think i'll go pick this up today too...

#624150Post 62 of 64

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just got back from best buy, its only 9.99 there which comes to 10.48 with tax (depending on your states tax, dont think you have to worry about sales tax pelo ;)) tool always brings you some new shit when it comes to album packaging and this is no exception, the sterescopic goggles are fucking sick, i havnt heard this album but from a quick flip through its looking extremely badass, cant wait to pop this in the cd player!!! :D:D

#624399Post 63 of 64

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I've heard it. It rules. :RockOn:

#624434Post 64 of 64

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Picked it up earlier today. Great album. I really like this one better then laterlus. Aenima & undetow are my favorite tool albums though. I have to give to the guys from tool. They really delivered a rockin album this time around.

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