I have been wondering what can be a realy valuable job? I graduated last year as an engineer in informatics and I have been working since 2004 as a project manager for a Hungarian network integration firm. I am a bit sad because the salary is not high enough and the career oportunities are poor.

Pleas share your experience! What is your job and whar are your career oportunities?

Viktor

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Informatics? Network integration? Eh? What's that in English?

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Maybe Information Systems? What kind of salary do you earn a year? I know for a fact that those as IS Engineers in Amercia make a hell of a lot of money.

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Drug dealer, or preferrably, druglord.

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^^ with some pimping on the side?

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[QUOTE=v-vikand]I have been wondering what can be a realy valuable job? I graduated last year as an engineer in informatics and I have been working since 2004 as a project manager for a Hungarian network integration firm. I am a bit sad because the salary is not high enough and the career oportunities are poor.

Pleas share your experience! What is your job and whar are your career oportunities?

Viktor[/QUOTE] I have a Computer Engineering degree, and have been doing project management/project lead work for about a year now. My salary is decent, and because I work for a fucking huuuuge company my opportunities are good... the only complaint I have is the amount of politics involved with a large company and constantly pissing off upper management when you don't agree with their thoughts. I completely understand where you're coming from, man...

I think one of the biggest mistakes college-goers and college grads make is assuming they will be making the "industry average" salary straight out of college. The average salaries assumes a good 5+ years in the industry, plus, everybody in the world knows a college grad will take anything they can get. Hell.. imagine that we all made what those 40-50-year-olds colleages are earning straight out of college. In 20 years our salaries would be increased from yearly raises that we worked hard to earn, then some 23-year-old fuck comes along and earns just as much as we worked our ass off to earn.

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[quote=Yao]Drug dealer, or preferrably, druglord.[/quote] Ya that, or a Pimp... but remember, a Pimp is only as good as his product. And pimpin' aint easy.

f.

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[QUOTE=frisky] And pimpin' aint easy.

f.[/QUOTE] That's right ho, now stop typing and get back out on the corner. Time is money!

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garbage men, plumbers, & electricians.

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graduated dental school in 2004 , and for the last year i've been earning the minimum salary , it's how much the state pays rookies, it's a sick sistem, i hate it but i got some experience during this year so it's ok from january i'm moving with my work to a vilage near the city that i live, and there i'm getting my office set up and basicly i'll work for my own, i'm scared a little bit, but i need to try it i'll try to keep contact with the city, maybe get a second job at a dental office in my town, it's important not to isolate myself in that vilage and loose touch with what's new and as a second option if i wont make it on my own i'm optimist, i'm young and i have my whole life in front of me

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[QUOTE=frisky]And pimpin' aint easy. [/QUOTE]

...but it's necessary So I'm chasin bitches like Tom chased Jerry I'll put the pedal to the flo-uh In my two-tone Ford Explo-uh

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Stick with engineering dude, people will ALWAYS want to build stuff, and do things better.

Until the machines rise of course...

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education is always needed. healthcare. lawyers.

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hookers. as long as there is man.

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[quote=DreamGirlie]healthcare[/quote]

ain't THAT the truth...

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and if all else fails, there's always going into business for yourself. One can do pretty well in that realm.

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[quote=asdf_admin]garbage men, plumbers, & electricians.[/quote]

so true lol. my bf owns his plumbing comp. and he has more work than he knows what to do with never mind the tons of plumbers in the area. there is always commercial grade at least, not sure about service work. but i guess that too.

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Innonvation is the way. Find a problem fix it and people will just give you money.

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well i went to college for 4years and failed my finals, i know i was in abad place at the time..:(

out of college and have been bumming around for two years in between jobs.. got a job at the mo selling internet products.. money is good but stuck behind a desk which just isnt me.

i mean it kinda sucks when u dont know what ya want to do..

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Stick it out doing what you are doing. Network integration can be big money. Just stay ahead of your peers. Learn IPv6 now before others implement it. Become the expert and write your own ticket. Many companies, large and small will be looking for IPv6 experience and knowledge. VOIP, Video over IP, and network security are also big right now. Most companies are now looking to "deperimeterize" (as was explained at the conference I am attending this week). Basically moving security to the data object or individual device rather than having a firewall around the entire network.

I know computing can be discouraging at times but stick it out, your on the right track. But like I said, stay ahead of the curve and you make the big bucks in no time. Networks aren't going to get any simpler, only more complex (IPv6, MPLS etc.) so there more money to be made ahead. Also there very few young people going into computing anymore (due to the outsourcing) so supply will be short in the future.

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trying to finish my ge's still, at age 23 its pretty sad, hopefully i'll get done like everyone else around me

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Perfect job for me is to be paid to run MS.... oh wait... that days not too far :p

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