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[quote=evangelion][quote=picklemonkey][quote=pretence]Ye American guys sure do love to panic! :lol:[/quote] fuck you.[/quote]

Seriously...why does it have to be "ye Americans???" I'm positive that "ye humans" would panic in "ye situation." Ye included, dickhead. :evil:[/quote]

:lol: You've been spoiled in the states with you low gas prices, until now. The price has been creeping up here for months. Maybe now you'll get rid of the 6.5 litre SUVs for something a bit more economical.

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[quote=pretence] :lol: You've been spoiled in the states with you low gas prices, until now. [/quote] I would say that it's the law of supply and demand (not to mention a reacharound by some unnamed countries that we blow on a daily basis).

[quote=pretence]for something a bit more economical.[/quote] I drive a Honda Civic which gets 30mpg. How much more economical do I need to get?

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Alternative fuels. Its the only way to go. The technology is already there to operate car with alternative fuels. Guess what companies own the patents though!

:Bingo:

More and more are scheduled to be released this year and in the years coming. Even Porsche is releasing an alternative-fuel (or hybrid) vehicle.

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Gas prices... :x

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Yeah, I drive a Honda Accord that gets 29-30 mpg as well, but Pretence is right about the over abundance of SUVs and large trucks in our country. It's a sickening sight everyday on my commute to work. Out of 20 or so SUV/Large Trucks I see, maybe 2-3 of them have a trailer hitch on the back of them. I think it should be regulated that these types of vehicles only be driven when transporting a trailer of some sort. If you're not hauling anything but your fat ass and a couple of grocery bags then get an economical car! The problem is a huge portion of the people that drive these monstrosities were sold on the falsification that they'll be safer than any car in a crash. That's funny because most of these big ass SUV/trucks are more susceptible to rollover in the event of an accident.

More and more are scheduled to be released this year and in the years coming. Even Porsche is releasing an alternative-fuel (or hybrid) vehicle.[/quote]

Cool. Its an exciting time really. A global change in attitude is needed but it'll happen because it needs to.

Imagine hydro car running on sea water. Think what a change that would have. To have a limitless resource. Make the world a lot friendlier place!

if only I lived on a coast

:shock:

There are no oceans in Missouri?

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my first 3 dollar gallon this morning :(

[quote=picklemonkey]if only I lived on a coast[/quote]

:lol: Please! And is there oil rigs in Ireland? I think not! :roll:

[quote=pretence]Imagine hydro car running on sea water. Think what a change that would have. To have a limitless resource. Make the world a lot friendlier place![/quote]

Seriously. And supposedly the only waste from those hydrogen fuel cells is water. Of course it all comes down to cost (which is beyond realistic at this point), but imagine the positive change in this world if the only emission from a car was frickin' water vapor. :shock:

[quote=evangelion][quote=pretence]Imagine hydro car running on sea water. Think what a change that would have. To have a limitless resource. Make the world a lot friendlier place![/quote]

Seriously. And supposedly the only waste from those hydrogen fuel cells is water. Of course it all comes down to cost (which is beyond realistic at this point), but imagine the positive change in this world if the only emission from a car was frickin' water vapor. :shock:[/quote]

The only reason the cost is beyond realsitic is because it wouldn't have a fraction of the profit of oil.

If this was a new super car like the Merc/MacLaren which costs about ?300,000 there is no problem.

How much money is invested in F1 cars over the years?

Greed is the driver and the reason.

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Part of the reason speed limits were 55 for al ong time is that the gov't and automakers worked to make an efficiency standard after the oil crisis in the 70's. As such, engines became designed for optimum performance at 55 mph, and all gov't highways were adjusted to that speed limit. Since then, a lot of highways have increased their speed limits due to the demand of the people to drive fast.

However, cars haven't been redesigned to match random speeds, they still perform best at 55 mph. It'll take you significantly longer for any trips you make, but you WILL save gas if you drive at 55 mph

The use of air conditioning in your car can burn gas. Studies have been run to see at what speed do you switch from burning fuel to run the AC vs burning fuel to fight the drag of an open window. I think they said that anything over 40 mph you create too much drag on the car and you'd be better off (fuel economy wise) to roll up the window and use AC at that point. Below 40 mph, you'd do better by turning off the AC and running with the window down

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[quote=DreamGirlie]The use of air conditioning in your car can burn gas. Studies have been run to see at what speed do you switch from burning fuel to run the AC vs burning fuel to fight the drag of an open window. I think they said that anything over 40 mph you create too much drag on the car and you'd be better off (fuel economy wise) to roll up the window and use AC at that point. Below 40 mph, you'd do better by turning off the AC and running with the window down[/quote]

I completely understand the logic in that, but try living in Florida in the summer. It's AC all the time for me. Otherwise I would have a heat stroke.

Not to mention that any gasoline you would actually save would be negligible.

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[quote=evangelion][quote=DreamGirlie]The use of air conditioning in your car can burn gas. Studies have been run to see at what speed do you switch from burning fuel to run the AC vs burning fuel to fight the drag of an open window. I think they said that anything over 40 mph you create too much drag on the car and you'd be better off (fuel economy wise) to roll up the window and use AC at that point. Below 40 mph, you'd do better by turning off the AC and running with the window down[/quote]

I completely understand the logic in that, but try living in Florida in the summer. It's AC all the time for me. Otherwise I would have a heat stroke.[/quote] I hear ya...its been 90% humidity here and so hot. Surely not as bad as ther ebut I can relate.

alas I only see one way of changes to all this is if carmakers can't sell enough cars...July had more new cars sold then ANY OTHER MONTH :shock: thanks to the "employee discounts" that the carmakers were offering :roll:

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[quote=DreamGirlie][quote=evangelion][quote=DreamGirlie]The use of air conditioning in your car can burn gas. Studies have been run to see at what speed do you switch from burning fuel to run the AC vs burning fuel to fight the drag of an open window. I think they said that anything over 40 mph you create too much drag on the car and you'd be better off (fuel economy wise) to roll up the window and use AC at that point. Below 40 mph, you'd do better by turning off the AC and running with the window down[/quote]

I completely understand the logic in that, but try living in Florida in the summer. It's AC all the time for me. Otherwise I would have a heat stroke.[/quote] I hear ya...its been 90% humidity here and so hot. Surely not as bad as ther ebut I can relate.[/quote]

I guess it all comes down to comfor level: do you want to sweat your A$$ off to get few extra miles/gallon? As for myself, Since i am @ work during the hottest part of the day. When i am driving to home, i usally don't operate AC, that gives me extra ~30 miles for my tank. Plus, i don't want to be sitting next to a smelly sweaty person @ work ... hmm... it does confuse whatever point i was trying to make.

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maybe smaller cars are the answer.

[url]http://media.skoopy.com/misc/minicars/[/url]

I really want the 911. [img]http://media.skoopy.com/misc/minicars/06.jpg[/img]

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[quote=evangelion]I completely understand the logic in that, but try living in Florida in the summer. It's AC all the time for me. Otherwise I would have a heat stroke.[/quote]

amen to that shit. and im about to return to florida. but i welcome the heat over a city full of unruly apes any day.

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[quote=Jibgolly][quote=evangelion]I completely understand the logic in that, but try living in Florida in the summer. It's AC all the time for me. Otherwise I would have a heat stroke.[/quote]

amen to that shit. and im about to return to florida. but i welcome the heat over a city full of unruly apes any day.[/quote]

Africa junior, if I remember correctly??? :wink: