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Soundcloud question.

24 durable postsStarted 2016-03-09Latest 2016-04-03
#163616Post 1 of 24

I've just realised that i'm missing a lot of mixes and stuff from the djs i`m following ... I can recall this happening in the past here and there but now it seems like a bit out of control..

This is happening to anyone else? And there is any way to fix it? should i maybe unfollow some not much relevant Djs? Not sure if that might help though.

Muchos gracias :lol: 8)

#1761351Post 2 of 24

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When they kicked off Danny Howells, Dave Seaman, and downloads I abandon ship

Edit: so i see both guys have soundcloud pages again, but i swear i remember them saying there accounts got shut down

#1762087Post 3 of 24

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Soundcloud's days are numbered according to this...[URL="http://www.mushroom-magazine.com/soundcloud-r-p/"]

http://www.mushroom-magazine.com/soundcloud-r-p/[/URL]

#1762211Post 4 of 24

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This looks interesting .. Soundcloud Go

[URL]http://www.wired.com/2016/03/soundclouds-new-venture-mixes-social-network-music-service/[/URL]

[URL="https://blog.soundcloud.com/2016/03/29/introducing-soundcloud-go/"]SoundCloud Introducing SoundCloud Go[/URL]

Lets see how it goes, could be good.

#1762213Post 5 of 24

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this is pretty weak, so we used to get high quality 320 download links from robot heart on Burning Man, Danny Howells ect.

Now we get no download links and a low quality stream and they want us to pay $120.00 bucks a year for that??? What a JOKE!!

#1762233Post 6 of 24

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When the "intellectual owners" get into the game, it's over. So we have this phenomenon of people playing SC or You Tube rips, not counting the ftps and blogs that spread those same rips as 320kbs.

#1762240Post 7 of 24

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yesterday I heard a commercial on soundcloud while driving, for Verizon wireless, the part of the advertisement at the end which is all the fine print being read was about a minute long and was sped up extremely fast, sounding a like a chipmunk on meth :lol:

#1762245Post 8 of 24

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The irony is that sooner or later SC could turn into a streaming service, you know, the ones that pay artists 1 cent every million plays.

But the one thing that annoys me to death is that labels and DJs can have your account closed because you used one of their tracks in a dj mix, [I]when they do just the same when THEY post a mix, wtf! [/I]Do they pay the film studio for the cool spoken intro? Do they pay for the mainstream tracks they use?? Why are they allowed to use them????

They aren't -and big name DJs get kicked out too. But they're still just the same as the random bedroom DJ. The workaround? No download option. Genius!

#1762247Post 9 of 24

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So not much people loving Soundcloud go this far right? lol

Atish:

"As you may know, I'm an artist heavily into soundcloud. It's the core of my music career and the first thing I link to when somebody asks for my online artist presence (I also take pride in having more soundcloud followers than Facebook followers, implying people know me more for my music than my social media hype).I think today's launch is pretty cool for dance music heads like you and me for a few reasons:

  • For those who listen to soundcloud on airplanes, in subways, or in countries where data ain't cheap, they can now sign up have offline access to soundcloud. I always find it extremely LAME when DJs don't make their mixes downloadable to jack up their listener counts. I also find it annoying that I have to manage my mp3 collection in iTunes to listen to my friends' mixes when traveling. People should be able to listen to music when they want, and this makes it easier to do that
  • There were many behind-the-scenes record label contracts that lead up to the point of making this possible. Long story short, this means the number of DJ mixes that get taken down for copyright infringement will be drastically reduced. I've had a few mixes of my own taken down over the years which really sucks, and I'm glad to see that likely won't happen anymore.
  • As touched on above, soundcloud now has legal access to the music from the major record labels. Let's see how this plays out in practice, but theoretically this may replace my need for spotify (I am already a proud-paying spotify premium subscriber - worth every cent), which consequently means soundcloud may have more access to music than spotify because of their existing access to independent artists (like me) Overall, I'm pretty happy to see a new life injected into this product..let's see how it goes"

He seems to be optimistic with the idea and kind of so do i :lol: .... Will see how it goes, maybe they will fix some visible wrong things too, i dont know.

#1762248Post 10 of 24

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125 million songs!!

124 million of them are homemade dubstep cuts.

#1762250Post 11 of 24

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if i were sc i wouldn't feel confident in my new business model, it just doesn't have the pull that the likes of spotify, apple music and google play have plus sc has pissed off a lot of its customer base who will never use the service again

personally i can see this falling flat on its arse and that will be the end of sc

#1762251Post 12 of 24

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;1182718]if i were sc i wouldn't feel confident in my new business model, personally i can see this falling flat on its arse and that will be the end of sc[/QUOTE]

Well, in my opinion business decisions not always are easy and confident to take.. And many times risk is proportional to earnings.. Looks like this is an "all in" play for them and honestly i see potential in it even considering some weak issues

#1762254Post 13 of 24

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[QUOTE=AchtungBaby!;1182719]Well, in my opinion business decisions not always are easy and confident to take.. And many times risk is proportional to earnings.. Looks like this is an "all in" play for them and honestly i see potential in it even considering some weak issues[/QUOTE]

you have to admit its up against some pretty formidable competition, they say its been 3 years in the making! i think if they had launched it 3 years ago then imo it might of stood a chance but i think the competition will just under cut it out the market simply because they have a larger customer base

#1762255Post 14 of 24

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;1182726], they say its been 3 years in the making! [/QUOTE]

looks less like 3 years in the making and more like a last minute scramble trying to salvage the platform after major label scrutiny.

#1762256Post 15 of 24

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[QUOTE=Jenks;1182728]looks less like 3 years in the making and more like a last minute scramble trying to salvage the platform after major label scrutiny.[/QUOTE]

they probably offered them a deal rather than suing them in court... i've not had the pleasure of trying this out ( its not available in the uk yet ) but from reading up on it i really don't see anything unique about it

#1762258Post 16 of 24

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I think they're greatly overvaluing the worth/appeal of their content.

#1762262Post 17 of 24

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Both of you can be easily correct, valid points for sure..

From the way i see it, i think SC is trying to be "the first" platform of that kind (Mixcloud, Hearthis) of moving their initial conception to some sort of Spotify..

Formidable competition? Definitely yes.

Unique? Definitely no.

Overvaluing the worth/appeal of their content? Not sure why.

If they offer this thing in the right way, pretty sure they will find a niche to subsist earning money (and maybe without legal issues)

But what do i know? Nothing lol

#1762267Post 18 of 24

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Let's be honest: DJs/producers, both professionals and wannabes, made SC great. When, lest we forget, a Pro Plan would cost you 500 dollars. Since you could find any imaginable set (with a pinch of warez here and there) on SC, sites like ours almost lost their reason to be. Everyone had an account at SC, everything was happening there (2011-2012?).

SC basically started as a platform for dance music people, their offer being: give us your money and you can post all your mixes! All of a sudden they told us: sorry, you can't post mixes here, you're out, no refund, no second chances. "This place is for "[I]sounds[/I]", ie: your own compositions. Only to find out that samples were forbidden too, not to mention edits and remixes.

All in all, a great deal.

#1762271Post 19 of 24

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^^^^ You said it best man

#1762283Post 20 of 24

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Quite funny actually, my bookmark still says Dashboard- Downloads for free. . They sold out to the record companies.

#1762288Post 21 of 24

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#1762292Post 22 of 24

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That's true. No d/l option anymore after two strikes (you still pay the same money).

#1762412Post 23 of 24

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It strikes me that not so many people are that fused about the download option. I looked on my Hulkshare and the number of plays far outweighs the number of downloads. You are always going to have a problem when you let people download and keep music for free. Maybe soundcloud should have had an app that lets you download and store for 7 days (like the iplayer).

#1762418Post 24 of 24

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This way the people who rip tracks from SC and Youtube will reap a 128kbs version anyway. So in the end: the files will still be available through blogs or zippyshare but in really poor quality.

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