Looks like Economics not Copyright issues will end Soundcloud.

[URL]http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/latest-financial-report-for-streaming-service-soundcloud-is-far-worse-than-anybody-imagined/news-story/771fdf1f88079550f14c0ba07d09bbb9[/URL]

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Been poorly managed since the beginning. I loved it once. But I won't cry if it goes down. Although I will be pissed for all the artists that have invested so much time and talent intro it.

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I discovered so much quality music on SC - they are a bunch of fiends though

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[QUOTE=DIDI;1180636]I will be pissed for all the artists that have invested so much time and talent intro it.[/QUOTE]

For real.. I dont care about SC itself but i do care about my SC account lol .. Especially considering that i mostly stream all the music i listen to these days.

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if it goes, what will replace it? surely something will (haven't read the article yet)

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all the likes and sets that still need to be visited :HolyShit:

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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1180652]if it goes, what will replace it? surely something will (haven't read the article yet)[/QUOTE]

There are loads of different platforms. I manly use Hulkshare, but you also have Hearthis, plus others. Why worry about soundcloud?

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Soundcloud, meh...

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fuck, time to start archiving stuff.

you know when you think of a mix that you heard years ago but can't find it? I can usually find it on soundcloud. lots more popping up on mixcloud lately though. it's gonna be like the rapid/mega crash a few years ago.

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I still find a lot of stuff on soulseek :)

Plus, most things on soundcloud do not have download option anymore

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[QUOTE=D.Williams;1180671]

Plus, most things on soundcloud do not have download option anymore[/QUOTE]

Yeah i hear you... But besides you can easily download all SC stuff (128 tho) its like SC is confort zone .. and to be honest confort zone sounds great because there are loads of good music just a couple of clicks away..

I will survive no matter what tho :lol:

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^^^ I am not downloading anything in 128 :)

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[QUOTE=DIDI;1180690]^^^ I am not downloading anything in 128 :)[/QUOTE]

How? I'm jealous

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[QUOTE=DIDI;1180690]^^^ I am not downloading anything in 128 :)[/QUOTE]

nor am i

as for soundcloud, serves them right for not setting it up correctly in the first place

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[url="https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/12/soundshroud/"]SoundCloud sinks as leaks say layoffs buy little time | TechCrunch[/url]

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[url="http://mixmag.net/read/sources-claim-soundcloud-only-has-enough-money-to-last-50-days-news"]Sources claim SoundCloud only has enough money to last 50 days - News - Mixmag[/url]

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"It is believed the company, which [URL="http://mixmag.net/read/twitter-invests-70-million-into-soundcloud-news"]received $70 million of funding from Twitter last year[/URL], is looking for investors" ..

It amazes me how stupid you have to be to blow 70M in one year and still can´t manage to put the company back on track.

Would be sad if it´s gone, i use it on a daily basis.

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this is their response [URL="https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=39513"]RA News: SoundCloud denies it's running out of money, claims it's 'confident' about profitability[/URL]

but lets look at this logistically, they increased their user base by forcing people to log into the site to download stuff which means they also increased their out take of money in streaming as the site became more popular and also at the same time they did that thing with the dj mixes where they forced it's users to not allow downloads if they wanted them to host their work, pretty dumb imo, it would probably cost them less if they just let people download rather than stream

in 2015 they lost something like 50 M, last year twitter invested 70 M but the above ^ happened and they also introduced soundcloud go which is probably hemorrhaging as much money as spotify is

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now it's being attacked to hell with bots from everywhere, porn, the lot which means paying customers are being forced to either delete and report about 5-6 bots from each upload they do ( sometimes a LOT more ) or go somewhere else, many take the latter option, this is going to just get worse until they take care of that

imo it's in a state of fatigue right now with not much options, it'll collapse this time i think, i honestly don't know how much more stress it can take at this rate

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;1202473]this is their response [URL="https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=39513"]RA News: SoundCloud denies it's running out of money, claims it's 'confident' about profitability[/URL]

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That's some weak ass response lol .. If i were an investor i wouldn't be eager to put any money there, i mean they are dropping million like crazy and still laid off 40% of their staff but ""We continue to be confident the changes made last week put us on our path to profitability and ensure SoundCloud's long-term viability." C´mon. Only others big companies that eventually will shut down as well but still have money to waste (like twitter) may do another shot on this one.

But what do i know about this, nothing.. i just use their platform for free and have a few complains :lol:

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so do i man and i'll continue to until they sort themselves out, i,m not paying good money to upload only to have to sit and get rid of bots everywhere

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another story on this [url="http://variety.com/2017/music/news/soundcloud-responds-to-techcrunch-article-claiming-it-is-almost-out-of-money-1202494837/"]SoundCloud Responds to Article Claiming It Is Almost Out of Money | Variety[/url]

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[QUOTE=AchtungBaby!;1202466]"It is believed the company, which [URL="http://mixmag.net/read/twitter-invests-70-million-into-soundcloud-news"]received $70 million of funding from Twitter last year[/URL], is looking for investors" ..

It amazes me how stupid you have to be to blow 70M in one year and still can´t manage to put the company back on track.

Would be sad if it´s gone, i use it on a daily basis.[/QUOTE] And manage to piss off a large part of your audience. :lol: I go to it everyday but it doesn't give me much anymore. I will be able to manage without it. But I will be sorry for what it once was, and I will be sorry for the artists that thought it would be better.

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[quote][COLOR=#CCCCCC]And manage to piss off a large part of your audience. [/quote][/COLOR]

that's a biggie

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^^^ I think they missed that most of their audience didn't really want just another streaming "service". I didn't realise just how bad it was until I read some of what is here. Nobody wins :(

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i hope it can sort itself out, it was an innovation when it first came out, how many times we talked about it now...it will just keep getting worse and worse until it pulls it's own finger out it's behind and does something about it

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shit, time to get another external and backup stuff like all the bringthebeats sets before they disappear.

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[QUOTE=tiddles;1202498]shit, time to get another external and backup stuff like all the bringthebeats sets before they disappear.[/QUOTE]

[URL="http://www.jdownloader.org/jdownloader2"]JDownloader.org - Official Homepage[/URL] is your friend

edit : everyone is reporting that you should back up all your stuff.

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According to Virustotal the JDownloader2_Clean_Installer.exe for Windows is full of trojans:

[URL]https://www.virustotal.com/nl/file/08b9f7a334e2ae3e804350d779f75331cb7d9be737bc0f7f85126ef2e4ba1400/analysis/1500039092/[/URL]

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[QUOTE=barski;1202513]Full of trojans...

[URL]https://www.virustotal.com/nl/file/08b9f7a334e2ae3e804350d779f75331cb7d9be737bc0f7f85126ef2e4ba1400/analysis/1500039092/[/URL][/QUOTE]

not version 2

edit : never had an issue with it myself

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another article about this [url="https://noisey.vice.com/en_ca/article/d384ez/back-up-your-shit-because-soundcloud-might-be-dying"]Back Up Your Shit, Because Soundcloud Might Be Dying - Noisey[/url]

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mixcloud all the way....

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not a viable option, for producers at least

no one cares anyway, hearthis.at will take over, there are other options as well

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this is it folks.... looks like to me they're going down hard

[URL="https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/12/soundshroud/"]SoundCloud sinks as leaks say layoffs buy little time | TechCrunch[/URL]

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thats rinsefm be completely removed from sc now

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;1202540]this is it folks.... looks like to me they're going down hard

[URL="https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/12/soundshroud/"]SoundCloud sinks as leaks say layoffs buy little time | TechCrunch[/URL][/QUOTE] "That content, including unofficial remixes and hour-plus DJ sets, is missing from the top streaming competitors like Spotify and Apple. At the same time, this content comes with copyright problems and SoundCloud has had trouble monetizing it."

t's really interesting that this doesn't seem to be a problem for Youtube.

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[QUOTE=DIDI;1202555]"That content, including unofficial remixes and hour-plus DJ sets, is missing from the top streaming competitors like Spotify and Apple. At the same time, this content comes with copyright problems and SoundCloud has had trouble monetizing it."

t's really interesting that this doesn't seem to be a problem for Youtube.[/QUOTE]

both companies were set up differently, not sure exactly how but i know that youtube was set up in a way where is has certain rights towards music in the same way mixcloud has, soundcloud didn't do that... i think it has something to do with royalties

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Mixcloud did it but not having any downloads, Youtube did it by making up their own special license :lol: Soundcloud thought they were smart but really weren't :)

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Thankfully we now have live streamed dj sets from places like Mixmag and Boiler Room. Just need more of them. Was talking with some friends the other day about live streaming their monthly event.

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[QUOTE=jeffrey collins;1202604]Thankfully we now have live streamed dj sets from places like Mixmag and Boiler Room. Just need more of them. Was talking with some friends the other day about live streaming their monthly event.[/QUOTE]

as i've got older i'm trending towards the opposite opinion, the site you mentioned have so much choice and are more or less doing it once a week, boiler room even more, boiler room broadcasts a lot of content that most people just won't watch so it tend to drive a lot of people away from it and who know if they watch out for the people they like or not...there is just so much stuff out there nowadays