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68 durable postsStarted 2015-11-14Latest 2015-11-20
#1758214Post 41 of 68

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For everyone on here who has no idea wth is really going on in Syria, like truly fucked up Geopolitics and why so many foreign / Western nations find themselves at odds going in, here is an EYE OPENER of a message I received as a forward. Wake up.

[QUOTE]For all those confused about Syrian politics :

Geo Politics Defined... Luv it!!!

[B][U]SIMPLE EXPLANATIONS ARE ALWAYS EASY TO UNDERSTAND - SYRIAN ISSUE MADE SIMPLE[/U][/B]

A highly restricted briefing paper on Syria :

President Assad (who is bad) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the Rebels (who are good) started winning (Hurrah!).

But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State (who are definitely bad!) and some continued to support democracy (who are still good.)

So the Americans (with good intentions) started bombing Islamic State (who are bad) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels (who are good) so they could fight Assad (who is still bad) which was good.

By the way, there is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight IS (which is a good thing ) but the Turkish authorities think they are bad, so we have to say they are bad whilst secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.

Getting back to Syria.

So President Putin (who is bad, 'cos he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks (including that nice Russian man in London with polonium poisoned sushi) has decided to back Assad (who is still bad) by attacking IS (who are also bad) which is sort of a good thing?

But Putin (still bad) thinks the Syrian Rebels (who are good) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans (who are good) who are busy backing and arming the rebels (who are also good).

Now Iran (who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons and bomb Israel are now good ) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad (still bad) as are the Russians (bad) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.

So a Coalition of Assad (still bad) Putin (extra bad) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way) are going to attack IS (who are bad) which is a good thing, but also the Syrian Rebels (who are good) which is bad.

Now the British (obviously good, except that nice Mr Corbyn in the corduroy jacket, who is probably bad and the Americans (also good) cannot attack Assad (still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin (bad) and Iran (good / bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS (who are super bad).

So Assad (bad) is now probably good, being better than IS (but lets face it, drinking your own wee is better than IS so no real choice there) and since Putin and Iran are also fighting IS that may now make them Good. America (still Good) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr Putin (now good) and that nice man Ayatollah in Iran (also Good) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now Bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS (still the only constantly bad group).

To Sunni Muslims, an attack by Shia Muslims (Assad and Iran) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War, and the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as Good (Doh!.)

Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal (mmm...might have a point...) and hence we will be seen as Bad.

So now we have America (now bad) and Britain (also bad) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels (bad) many of whom are looking to IS (Good/bad) for support against Assad (now good) who, along with Iran (also Good) and Putin (also, now, unbelievably, Good) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started?

I hope that clears things up for you. Not everyone is just trying to corner the oil....[/QUOTE]

#1758216Post 42 of 68

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That really puts most of what I have read all in one place and in a way that most would understand . Good one :)

#1758222Post 43 of 68

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Don't worry, They have love for everyone.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/gKwHBB0.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/vApIoKT.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/UIHSeGG.jpg[/IMG]

#1758228Post 44 of 68

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[QUOTE=DIDI;1176844] . :( These tragedies should bring people together instead we see just how awful humanity is.[/QUOTE]

"Tragedies?"

I see this bringing many different 1st world countries together, I'm sorry you don't... also sorry you were taken off ignore :).

#1758235Post 45 of 68

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^^^Have you got someone writing your lines ??

Re the ignore , why do you bother one way or the other :lol:

#1758237Post 46 of 68

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[QUOTE=audrey_w;1176722]Serious post?

Ever heard the saying "don't bite the hand that feeds you"? Saudi Arabia and Israel seem to be off the radar of Isis too. How odd[/QUOTE]

Even thinking you have truly a point (USA, SA and IS are objectively morally capable to do business with ISIS) in the other hand i dont think ISIS are "gentleman"enough to not bite the hand that feeds them. In fact, i think at some point it will be inevitable.

#1758238Post 47 of 68

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1176774] If you are saying that because the U.S. has killed innocent people in other countries, or the French have and therefore this is what happens as a result I also disagree. I don't believe the French or the U.S. military intentionally kill innocent people.[/QUOTE]

Really? Probably not intentionally just for the sake of kill but you can be sure that both countries positively know and are aware that kill thousands of innocents for a "bigger purpose" ..

In war times like always in the US and allies, "bigger purpose" is a grey zone.. if you know what i mean.

#1758239Post 48 of 68

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[QUOTE=DIDI;1176844]

Every morning I wake up and man's inhumanity to man just gets worse[/QUOTE]

In historical times and in terms of war, this is maybe the most peaceful time ever but i hear you about inhumanity... What amazed the most is the fact that we have the knowledge, the resources, the education, the information and everything we need to make this planet a better place to live but we CHOOSE to be a disgusting specie.

#1758240Post 49 of 68

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^i think most humans are now deluded, and by now there brains are like a bowl of cereal, as we can tell here by some...they take what their given and are too scared to think otherwise, coz its like throwing someone that dosent know how to swim in the ocean...

theres people that dont want this planet to be a better place for everyone, greed greed power....but the best part is that there plans dont always work and one way or another they get exposed...but still ofcourse their puppets dont see it coz they'll drown if they think...

#1758241Post 50 of 68

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[url="https://news.vice.com/article/a-leaked-budget-may-finally-show-how-the-islamic-state-makes-its-money?utm_source=vicenewsfb"]A Leaked Budget May Finally Show How the Islamic State Makes Its Money | VICE News[/url]

#1758246Post 51 of 68

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Really, really interesting article in the Guardian today.

[url="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/turkey-cut-islamic-state-supply-lines-erdogan-isis?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Politics+AUS&utm_term=138205&subid=7395359&CMP=ema_792"]Turkey could cut off Islamic State’s supply lines. So why doesn’t it? | David Graeber | Comment is free | The Guardian[/url]

#1758247Post 52 of 68

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[QUOTE=AchtungBaby!;1176888]In historical times and in terms of war, this is maybe the most peaceful time ever but i hear you about inhumanity... What amazed the most is the fact that we have the knowledge, the resources, the education, the information and everything we need to make this planet a better place to live but we CHOOSE to be a disgusting specie.[/QUOTE] Yes we CHOOSE :(

#1758249Post 53 of 68

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:Bingo: [url="http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/17/muslim-scholar-tells-isis-terrorist-to-fck-off-and-leave-the-west-alone-5508450/"]Muslim scholar's YouTube video tells ISIS terrorist to 'f*ck off' and leave the west alone | Metro News[/url]

#1758265Post 54 of 68

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[url="http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/11/19/russia-bombs-isis-oil-orig-vstan-mobile.cnn"]Russian bombers strike ISIS' oil - CNN Video[/url]

#1758266Post 55 of 68

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1176911]:Bingo: [URL="http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/17/muslim-scholar-tells-isis-terrorist-to-fck-off-and-leave-the-west-alone-5508450/"]Muslim scholar's YouTube video tells ISIS terrorist to 'f*ck off' and leave the west alone | Metro News[/URL][/QUOTE]

that is quite an old video

#1758268Post 56 of 68

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[QUOTE=AchtungBaby!;1176887]Really? Probably not intentionally just for the sake of kill but you can be sure that both countries positively know and are aware that kill thousands of innocents for a "bigger purpose" .. [/QUOTE]

absolutely - America can be just as evil as any other country my friend, I don't dispute that.

#1758269Post 57 of 68

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(actual quote)

(well that turned out to be bullshit )

#1758270Post 58 of 68

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1176942](actual quote)

[IMG]http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6855125.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/To-forgive-the-terrorists-i-yp-To-God-But-To-Send-Them-To-Him-Is-Up-To-Me.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

that was proven to be false... i'll dig out the news page

#1758271Post 59 of 68

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[url="http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/11/17/putin-forgive-terrorists-god-send-them-him-me"]IMPORTANT UPDATE - Putin: 'To Forgive The Terrorists Is Up To God, But To Send Them To Him Is Up To Me' - Fox Nation[/url]

#1758272Post 60 of 68

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[QUOTE=AchtungBaby!;1176887]Really? Probably not intentionally just for the sake of kill but you can be sure that both countries positively know and are aware that kill thousands of innocents for a "bigger purpose" ..[/QUOTE]

so how do you fight a war where an enemy feeds its propaganda by surrounding its small basses ( targets ) by innocent people ?

i don't like it either but its a tactic these people have applied really successfully provoking retaliation while at the same time killing innocent people in western civilizations and making wars with other religious groups in areas they take over again provoking retaliation....

two wrongs don't make a right

this is disturbing....btw kinda nsfw

[video=youtube;mJ3Sw3uMB_4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ3Sw3uMB_4[/video]

#1758273Post 61 of 68

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look at it another way... what would be happening right now if IS or Al Qaeda or the taliban had access to jets/drones or even worse still nukes ?

#1758274Post 62 of 68

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;1176946][URL="http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/11/17/putin-forgive-terrorists-god-send-them-him-me"]IMPORTANT UPDATE - Putin: 'To Forgive The Terrorists Is Up To God, But To Send Them To Him Is Up To Me' - Fox Nation[/URL][/QUOTE]

well shit :lol:

#1758285Post 63 of 68

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Putin didn't say that. I've seen that bumper sticker on the back of a pickup that said the same thing about UBL after 9/11 and it was said by the US Marines.

#1758287Post 64 of 68

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I know brotha - Banned pointed that out to me remember? :lol:

#1758302Post 65 of 68

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;1176947]so how do you fight a war where an enemy feeds its propaganda by surrounding its small basses ( targets ) by innocent people ?

[/QUOTE]

US and allies do what they have to do and pay the price once in a while, that's it.. There are no good guys, there are no bad guys. I'm not judging the forms, just describing how i see it..

Being from Argentina who does not have any army whatsoever, always found remarkable how US army and american society in general fight really ridiculous wars for nothing more far than "freedom" causing tons of avoidable deaths ... From participating on coup d'etat in ridiculous countries like Nicaragua or Chile to nonsense on middle east..

When you are the most powerful country in the world, there are lots of responsabilities and consequences.. U.S is always ready to pay the price and families recieve american flag with the coffin. I respect that.

#1758313Post 66 of 68

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[QUOTE=AchtungBaby!;1176994] Being from Argentina who does not have any army whatsoever, always found remarkable how US army and american society in general fight really ridiculous wars for nothing more far than "freedom" causing tons of avoidable deaths ... From participating on coup d'etat in ridiculous countries like Nicaragua or Chile to nonsense on middle east.[/QUOTE]

usually there is more to it on the face of it but we don't get that info because its some sort of intelligence, they don't just jump into a war because they feel like it... whether that intelligence is substantially based on facts or not to warrant action or not is the part that everyone argues about and that is where you start to get made up shit about banks and inside jobs etc etc

#1758331Post 67 of 68

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[video=youtube;JrwsB0PiRws]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrwsB0PiRws[/video]

#1758333Post 68 of 68

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1176967]I know brotha - Banned pointed that out to me remember? :lol:[/QUOTE]

Nope, haven't read through the entire thread ha ha

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