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Just saw this article related to my state of Florida
[URL]http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2015/11/florida-bill-would-fully-decriminalize-marijuana-effectively-nullify-federal-prohibition/[/URL]
really seems to make a whole lot of sense to legalize and tax it. it is such a huge revenue generator I don't get why it has taken this long.
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The problem is aligning the Federal laws with the State laws and dialing down the RICO act's overreach into what they consider money laundering - something they touch on in that article.
You guys will have it legal I'm guessing in 5 years across the U.S. 10 years tops.
Meanwhile, up here in Canada, our new Prime Minister is already working on legislation to legalize it. I was hoping for something more along the lines of decriminalization over legalization, but so long as they don't fuck too much with how you grow it, I'm down. We're likely to see the first bill tabled when Parliament resumes in the beginning of December.
I'm looking forward to not having to sneak around about that shit anymore.
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Well that will be good if it does pass, but similar to HS, I honestly don't see it happening for at least another 3 - 5 yrs in Florida. In California you can legally grow 100 plants in Santa Cruz where a friend of mine lives... and if you grow more than that, they just take whatever you have over 100 plants.... up there and in Colorado, they have weed growing down to an exact science.... you get exactly what you want in terms of how you want to feel. Meanwhile in backwards ass Florida, it's still mostly shitty weed, and people don't even know the difference between indica and setiva strands for the most part :lol:. It's hilarious, in LA there are more dispensaries than Starbucks... I don't really condone smoking a lot or anything, but I do think it helps me out periodically when I need a mental reboot.
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Thats good to hear steppa, I feel ya on this "I'm looking forward to not having to sneak around about that shit anymore." I remember visiting my friend in LA and she's like "lets smoke a bit before we go in in&out burger" Im like "Right HERE!!!?"
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I hear ya Williams - It's funny when you're in a state or place in the world where it's legal (or decriminalized) - takes some getting used to in being so open with smoking up after an entire lifetime of having to keep it on the downlow. It doesn't help that certain strains make me paranoid - resulting me in getting anxious over nothing and having to constantly be reminded that it's cool to smoke it in the open. :D
The one thing I am concerned about with this, if and when it does happen, is how they're going to deal with DUI related situations. I'm pretty strongly against driving under the influence, but I'm curious how law enforcement will handle this.
Question for Chuck and FL - isn't your state Republican governed? Won't that present a bit of an obstacle for the legalization process? Not impossible, as if you look at what happened with Colorado and Alaska, but I would think that the politics might present a bit of a problem...
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BTW, what the fuck is going on with Ireland? They're considering decriminalizing weed AND cocaine. Not the first place in the world that would consider putting cocaine on the menu.
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[QUOTE=el presidente Highsteppa;1176137]BTW, what the fuck is going on with Ireland? They're considering decriminalizing weed AND cocaine. Not the first place in the world that would consider putting cocaine on the menu.[/QUOTE]
lol. there's quite a difference between decriminalizing drugs and "putting them on the menu."
I'd like to see all drugs decriminalized, for a variety of reasons, namely more research into psychedelics- psilocybin, dmt, etc.
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Eire is decriminalizing small amounts of everything (or thats the plan).
I think the priests misinterpreted the headlines tho...
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Basically this is where we are at in Florida.
[COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=arial][QUOTE]TALLAHASSEE — As he promised, Gov. Rick Scott signed a bill on Monday that legalizes the use of a noneuphoric strain of marijuana to treat conditions such as epilepsy, Lou Gehrig's disease and cancer. He signed Senate Bill 1030, which approves the medication, nicknamed Charlotte's Web, and SB 1700, which protects the identities of the patients who use it.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#181818][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=arial]"As a father and grandfather, you never want to see kids suffer," Scott said in a statement. "The approval of Charlotte's Web will ensure that children in Florida who suffer from seizures and other debilitating illnesses will have the medication needed to improve their quality of life."[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#181818][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=arial]The governor's office also announced today that he approved HB 697, which bans six new synthetic drugs.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#181818][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=arial]There is still a larger medical marijuana debate going on this year in Florida. Voters will be asked in November to weigh in on Amendment 2, a much broader medical pot referendum that would legalize marijuana for a range of conditions.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#181818][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=arial]Scott said that he personally opposes legalizing medical marijuana and the ballot initiative.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#181818][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=arial]"I've watched drug use; I've watched alcoholism," he said during a campaign stop Monday. "I've seen how it affects families; I can't support that."[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#181818][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=arial]The Charlotte's Web bill legalizes strains of marijuana that are high in cannabidiol, or CBD, but low in tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the compound that produces a high.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#181818][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=arial]An estimated 125,000 children in Florida suffer from severe epilepsy and their families lobbied hard to persuade reluctant legislators to open the door to limited use. It also could be used by adults.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#181818][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=arial]Authorized patients will be allowed access to the drug through oil or vapor form, but it may not be smoked.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#181818][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=arial]If 60 percent of Florida voters approve Amendment 2, it would allow doctors to prescribe other forms of marijuana, including the kind that is smoked, to treat an even wider range of conditions.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#181818][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=arial]The bill was amended at the ninth hour to stiffen licensing requirements so that only Florida nursery owners with businesses in operation for 30 continuous years will be allowed to grow "Charlotte's Web."[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#181818][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=arial]Florida physicians who have been authorized to order this strain of medical marijuana can start writing prescriptions Jan. 1. It will be sold through dispensaries licensed by the state Department of Health.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=arial]Most of the Legislature's Republican leadership opposes the rival constitutional ballot initiative, as does the Florida Sheriff's Association and the Florida Medical Association. Many speculated that the GOP-controlled Legislature agreed to pass the low-THC proposal to squash voter interest in passing the amendment, which opponents believe will lead to the total legalization of smoking marijuana, misuse and abuse.[/QUOTE][/FONT][/COLOR]
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Wow. Not what I was expecting from Rick Scott.
Edit: but then again, he is campaigning
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[QUOTE=Jenks;1176140]lol. there's quite a difference between decriminalizing drugs and "putting them on the menu."
I'd like to see all drugs decriminalized, for a variety of reasons, namely more research into psychedelics- psilocybin, dmt, etc.[/QUOTE]
I meant it more in a figurative sense. Even with the legislation that's coming, we won't touch anything else but pot...for now.
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it just got legal here in Oregon a couple of months ago.. there is a shop just a couple minutes from me. problem is that they charge more than 2x the $ amount than if you still get it from your 'guy'. i have yet to visit a shop but from what some people say, it's just like going to the liquor store only with hipsters behind the counter.
im with Jenksy, legalize everything.. let people make their own decisions, however stupid they might be, back to some sense of Darwinism. military police don't like that though, lack of legalization keeps the military policing of our nation going not to mention the prison complex.
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Well looky here:
[I][COLOR=#d3d3d3]By[/COLOR][URL="https://news.vice.com/contributor/colleen-curry"][COLOR=#d3d3d3] Colleen Curry[/COLOR][/URL][/I] [COLOR=#d3d3d3]November 5, 2015 | 12:50 pm[/COLOR]
[URL="https://news.vice.com/article/the-dea-chief-just-called-medical-marijuana-a-joke?utm_source=vicenewsfb"]The DEA Chief Just Called Medical Marijuana a "Joke" | VICE News[/URL]
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[QUOTE=ddr;1176147]it just got legal here in Oregon a couple of months ago.. there is a shop just a couple minutes from me. problem is that they charge more than 2x the $ amount than if you still get it from your 'guy'[/QUOTE]
the problem for me is there is no "guy". so it would be nice to be able get a little to have once in a while. 2x the $$ would not bother me. especially knowing alot of the money goes to schools ect.
this is a good sign for OHIO [URL]http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2015/11/ohio_lawmakers_plan_to_introdu.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=ddr;1176147]im with Jenksy, legalize everything.. let people make their own decisions, however stupid they might be, back to some sense of Darwinism. military police don't like that though, lack of legalization keeps the military policing of our nation going not to mention the prison complex.[/QUOTE]
I've got a bit of mixed feelings about the "anything goes" attitude - partly because of the idea of how healthcare will be impacted by the dipshits that will take thinks to the brink habitually. Darwin or not, doctors/EMTs/paramedics will still be obliged to help said dipshits from themselves. In some cases, over and over again.
But, at the same time, part of me agrees with you - once weed becomes legal here, you'll likely see a lot of abuse at first, but hopefully moderation will kick in for most when we get past the novelty of legal weed. Part of me thinks that decriminalizing all drugs might have the same effect.
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[QUOTE=Huggie Smiles;1176142]Eire is decriminalizing small amounts of everything (or thats the plan).
I think the priests misinterpreted the headlines tho...[/QUOTE]
:lol:
I haven't had a smoke for about 5 years now after not going a day without it for about 15 years.
On the whole, I've felt much better for not having it but I do miss it now and again.
Ive always wondered if legalisation would make me go back to it again.
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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1176149]Well looky here:
[I][COLOR=#d3d3d3]By[/COLOR][URL="https://news.vice.com/contributor/colleen-curry"][COLOR=#d3d3d3] Colleen Curry[/COLOR][/URL][/I] [COLOR=#d3d3d3]November 5, 2015 | 12:50 pm[/COLOR]
[URL="https://news.vice.com/article/the-dea-chief-just-called-medical-marijuana-a-joke?utm_source=vicenewsfb"]The DEA Chief Just Called Medical Marijuana a "Joke" | VICE News[/URL][/QUOTE]
It's not the smoking that helps particularly . The oil is what kids with epilepsy are given . Lots of conversations happening here, but fuck all else. If these kids parents are caught administering to them They still could face 15 years jail.
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[QUOTE=el presidente Highsteppa;1176151]I've got a bit of mixed feelings about the "anything goes" attitude - partly because of the idea of how healthcare will be impacted by the dipshits that will take thinks to the brink habitually. Darwin or not, doctors/EMTs/paramedics will still be obliged to help said dipshits from themselves. In some cases, over and over again.
But, at the same time, part of me agrees with you - once weed becomes legal here, you'll likely see a lot of abuse at first, but hopefully moderation will kick in for most when we get past the novelty of legal weed. Part of me thinks that decriminalizing all drugs might have the same effect.[/QUOTE] In the places that have legalised moderation did kick in. :) One of the biggest advantages to legalisation will be lack of contamination.
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United States was the country that for control .. profit etc etc
invented the idiot ego business of prohibit the plant,
all the plants are free, Nature is free as it is
it´s the human ego commanded by his fear of control everything, as individuals and as countries, .. that they think they can decide if a plant is free
sure they are looking for another business, make a monoculture etc etc, all pure shit to the plant itself
only real seeds is what mother Earth needs, nothing controlled by a government completely full of fear
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DJ THREE - need more DJ THREE
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[QUOTE=Hoff;1176194][COLOR=#cc6666]
United States was the country that for control .. profit etc etc
invented the idiot ego business of prohibit the plant,
all the plants are free, Nature is free as it is
it´s the human ego commanded by his fear of control everything, as individuals and as countries, .. that they think they can decide if a plant is free
sure they are looking for another business, make a monoculture etc etc, all pure shit to the plant itself
only real seeds is what mother Earth needs, nothing controlled by a government completely full of fear
[/COLOR][/QUOTE] Oh goody! Does that mean I can have free fruit and veg ??? :lol:
Btw they are definitely not looking to legalise smoking here, but they are going to trail the low THC for medical purposes.
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[QUOTE=DIDI;1176213]Oh goody! Does that mean I can have free fruit and veg ??? :lol: [/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#cc6666"]ofcourse, you enjoying your work of planting and then harvesting ;)
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[QUOTE=DIDI;1176179]In the places that have legalised moderation did kick in. :) One of the biggest advantages to legalisation will be lack of contamination.[/QUOTE]
Good point about the lack of contamination. But the moderation point, I think, will only kick in after people start to get a bit stupid and crazy with their new found freedom with weed. I'm not looking forward to dealing with employees at my work that are going to call in sick because they overdid it while getting stoned the night before/over the weekend.
Here in the province that I live in, alcohol is sold only in government licensed and operated stores (called the LCBO - Liquor Control Board of Ontario) - it's not sold anywhere else (at least not legally) and they're just now allowing small amounts of liquor to be sold in grocery stores. It's fucking ridiculous.
I'm worried to some degree that we're going to have the same kind of bullshit government monopoly running things, making it impossible for entrepreneurial attempts to grow their own strains without (possibly overly) strict oversight. I guess I kind of want it both ways - regulation to ensure that the weed is clean (so to speak), but not so much government oversight that it strangles off innovation.
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[QUOTE=Hoff;1176222][COLOR=#cc6666]ofcourse, you enjoying your work of planting and then harvesting ;)
[/COLOR][/QUOTE] Bugger !! I have to work :lol:
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[QUOTE=DIDI;1176245]Bugger !! I have to work :lol:[/QUOTE]
if you work with real seeds without chemicals, it is always therapeutic !!,
always learning, plants generate you in an incredible state of harmony, .... [well just if you love this i think]
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[h=1][SIZE=3]Sanders Introduces Bill To Lift Federal Ban On Marijuana[/SIZE][/h] [URL]http://www.buzzfeed.com/cjciaramella/sanders-introduces-bill-to-lift-federal-ban-on-marijuana?utm_term=.asDx4xKzz#.om7ObOJDD[/URL]
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[QUOTE=el presidente Highsteppa;1176233]I'm not looking forward to dealing with employees at my work that are going to call in sick because they overdid it while getting stoned the night before/over the weekend. [/QUOTE]
LOL if they call out because of that excuse then they got problems. Now if booze or pills was in the mix I could understand.
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[QUOTE=D.Williams;1176338]LOL if they call out because of that excuse then they got problems. Now if booze or pills was in the mix I could understand.[/QUOTE]
Well, they'll never say that outright, but I'm extremely confident that attendance and sick day call ins will sharply increase for the first little while after it's legal. It's amusing how people kind of let on that they smoke it, but won't outright say it.
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sorry but smoking out is the one thing you do not wake up from a hangover from, add the alcohol then i agree but straight smoking no way. in fact you probably will get a better nights sleep.
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Don't know about the better night's sleep part dude. While the research has been contradictory with the bias against mj, there's been some studies that suggest it inhibits REM sleep.
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probably depends on the type of stand. i am sure some make you more sleepy..
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It can be useful for sleep, but I think only if you are having trouble sleeping. God knows I've gone to sleep nicely thanks to a few puffs before. just my 2 cents
this article discusses the effects of sleep from chronic daily smokers...
[URL="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1521-0391.2013.12003.x/abstract"]Aroundclock oral THC effects on sleep in male chronic daily cannabis smokers - Gorelick - 2013 - The American Journal on Addictions - Wiley Online Library[/URL]
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[url="http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/justin-trudeau-has-officially-ordered-canadas-justice-minister-to-start-weed-legalization-process?utm_source=vicefbca"]Justin Trudeau Has Ordered Canada’s Justice Minister to Start the Weed Legalization Process | VICE | Canada[/url]
Starting to happen here. :)
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^^^ well it finally happened, our neighbors to the north have done it! I wish the US gov would wise up.
[url="https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/20/health/canada-legalizes-marijuana/index.html"]Canada becomes second nation in the world to legalize marijuana - CNN[/url]
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[QUOTE=chuckc;1211556]^^^ well it finally happened, our neighbors to the north have done it! I wish the US gov would wise up.
[URL="https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/20/health/canada-legalizes-marijuana/index.html"]Canada becomes second nation in the world to legalize marijuana - CNN[/URL][/QUOTE]
trump will use it as the final weapon to gain popularity, his ego demands it
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October 17th it's legal in Canada. Senate signed the law on Tuesday.
Only problem is the demand is going to be insane at first, and the stores are going to be unable to meet it as far as stock goes.
It's also being taxed 70% (I don't mind that, so long as the funding is used properly, as promised).
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[QUOTE=el presidente Highsteppa;1211585]October 17th it's legal in Canada. Senate signed the law on Tuesday.
Only problem is the demand is going to be insane at first, and the stores are going to be unable to meet it as far as stock goes.
It's also being taxed 70% (I don't mind that, so long as the funding is used properly, as promised).[/QUOTE]
demand was huge here in Oregon when it first became legal. more dispensaries opened (almost as popular as a starbucks) and it seems to be fine.
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[QUOTE=el presidente Highsteppa;1211585]October 17th it's legal in Canada. Senate signed the law on Tuesday.
Only problem is the demand is going to be insane at first, and the stores are going to be unable to meet it as far as stock goes.
It's also being taxed 70% (I don't mind that, so long as the funding is used properly, as promised).[/QUOTE]
I would just grow the 4 plants in the house...that part of the legislature is awesome, although i hear some provenances already banned having plants which i dont get
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[QUOTE=chuckc;1211587]I would just grow the 4 plants in the house...that part of the legislature is awesome, although i hear some provenances already banned having plants which i dont get[/QUOTE]
they can't put tax on a person's home grow