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Ketamine Therapy

21 durable postsStarted 2015-06-28Latest 2015-07-03
#158962Post 1 of 21

Anyone here well versed on Ketamine Therapy? I personally don't want to try it, but I have a friend whose bilpolar and I am always on the lookout for new therapies to help him. I know some members here struggle with depression too.

[url="http://www.webmd.com/depression/news/20140923/ketamine-depression"]Ketamine: The Future of Depression Treatment?[/url]

[COLOR=#d3d3d3][SIZE=3][QUOTE][/SIZE][/COLOR][h=2][COLOR=#d3d3d3][SIZE=3]Ketamine: The Future of Depression Treatment?[/SIZE][/COLOR][/h][FONT=Lato][SIZE=3][COLOR=#d3d3d3]By [/COLOR][URL="http://www.webmd.com/matt-mcmillen"][COLOR=#d3d3d3]Matt McMillen [/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#d3d3d3] WebMD Health News[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Lato][SIZE=3][COLOR=#d3d3d3]Reviewed by [/COLOR][URL="http://www.webmd.com/michael-w-smith"][COLOR=#d3d3d3]Michael W. Smith, MD[/COLOR][/URL][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Lato][/FONT] [FONT=Lato][SIZE=3][COLOR=#d3d3d3]Sept. 23, 2014 -- Every year, 13 million to 14 million Americans have[/COLOR][URL="http://www.webmd.com/depression/guide/major-depression"][COLOR=#d3d3d3]major depression[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#d3d3d3]. Of those who seek treatment, 30% to 40% will not get better or fully recover with standard [/COLOR][URL="http://www.webmd.com/depression/depression-medications-antidepressants"][COLOR=#d3d3d3]antidepressants[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#d3d3d3].[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Lato][SIZE=3][COLOR=#d3d3d3]That puts them at greater risk of alcohol and [/COLOR][URL="http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/default.htm"][COLOR=#d3d3d3]drug abuse[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#d3d3d3], hospitalization, and [/COLOR][URL="http://www.webmd.com/help/crisis-resources"][COLOR=#d3d3d3]suicide[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#d3d3d3] attempts. Now, though, a growing body of research shows there may be new hope: the anesthetic drug ketamine.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Lato][SIZE=3][COLOR=#d3d3d3]Ketamine has a reputation as an illicit party drug due to its hallucinogenic effects. But in a handful of ketamine clinics around the country, people who weren't helped by standard treatments are getting a series of infusions to ease their [/COLOR][URL="http://www.webmd.com/depression/default.htm"][COLOR=#d3d3d3]depression[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#d3d3d3]. The drug has also been used in emergency rooms for curbing [/COLOR][URL="http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/tc/suicidal-thoughts-or-threats-topic-overview"][COLOR=#d3d3d3]suicidal[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#d3d3d3] thoughts, making it a potential lifesaver.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Lato][SIZE=3][COLOR=#d3d3d3]“The benefits I’ve seen are pretty impressive, and the data are very strong,” says [/COLOR][URL="http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/guide-to-psychiatry-and-counseling"][COLOR=#d3d3d3]psychiatrist[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#d3d3d3] Kyle Lapidus, MD, PhD. He's an assistant professor of psychiatry and neuroscience at Stony Brook University. Lapidus says there have been a large number of positive studies, though the number of participants in those studies has been small.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=Lato]Ketamine acts quickly -- often within hours or less -- and [/FONT][/COLOR][URL="http://www.webmd.com/health-insurance/default.htm"][COLOR=#d3d3d3]health care[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=Lato]professionals who give it to patients at therapeutic doses say it has mild and brief side effects in most people. But it hasn't been thoroughly studied for long-term safety and effectiveness, and the FDA hasn't approved it to treat [/FONT][/COLOR][URL="http://www.webmd.com/depression/ss/slideshow-depression-overview"][COLOR=#d3d3d3]depression[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#d3d3d3][FONT=Lato]. “The pace of research can be slow for people who are suffering,” Lapidus says.[/FONT][/QUOTE][/COLOR][/SIZE]

#1747198Post 2 of 21

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[COLOR=#D3D3D3][FONT=Lato][I]Ketamine acts quickly -- often within hours or less

usually a lot less.

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#1747232Post 3 of 21

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lol…bring it on

#1747237Post 4 of 21

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Well they use it on horses , seen any dressed horses lately? :lol:

#1747251Post 5 of 21

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It has never been used as therapy. It's administered as a animal tranquilizer. Been there, done that. Not recommended. Party drug for humans. Period.

#1747268Post 6 of 21

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The hell are you talking about? It absolutely is used as a form of therapy. Been waiting to use this smiley: :google:it.

#1747276Post 7 of 21

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dodgy as fuck, too much ket really fucks up your insides

#1747278Post 8 of 21

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[QUOTE=DIDI;1167160]Well they use it on horses , seen any dressed horses lately? :lol:[/QUOTE]

:Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh:

#1747283Post 9 of 21

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^^^That should have been depressed :lol:

Seriously from what I seen and heard can't see it being a great help.

#1747292Post 10 of 21

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^ bounce it on a nice boat party with hernan and you'll see how…

#1747296Post 11 of 21

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found this, decent read - [url="http://www.vice.com/read/ketamine-therapy"]Is Ketamine the New Miracle Drug? | VICE | United States[/url]

#1747299Post 12 of 21

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1167211]The hell are you talking about? It absolutely is used as a form of therapy. Been waiting to use this smiley: :google:it.[/QUOTE]

I stand corrected. However, I still cannot grasp the concept of using Ketamine for depression therapy. Other options for sure.

#1747334Post 13 of 21

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^^^^ Yeah, I have a bit of a problem there as well.

[QUOTE=trick12;1167243]^ bounce it on a nice boat party with hernan and you'll see how…[/QUOTE] Don't need anything for Hernan on boats or elsewhere. :) I may take some chemical enhancements for different reasons but great music ALWAYS sounds better totally sober. :)

#1747357Post 14 of 21

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Wow, so do you conservative anti-drug users also feel the same about LSD, psilocybin and DMT being tested or used in therapy? or is it singularly "Ketamine" that you are against? :lol:

[URL="http://podcasts.hopkinsmedicine.org/2015/04/03/april-7-2015-ketamine/"]April 7, 2015 Ketamine[/URL]

[URL="http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/new-insights-into-treatment-resistant-depression-20101209891"]New insights into treatment-resistant depression - Harvard Health Blog - Harvard Health Publications[/URL]

[URL="http://www.newsmax.com/Health/Health-News/ketamine-depression-johns-hopkins/2014/02/24/id/554457/"]Ketamine Therapy Relieves Depression: Johns Hopkins[/URL]

[URL="http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/major-depressive-disorder/new-claims-and-findings-ketamine-severe-depression"]New Claims and Findings for Ketamine in Severe Depression | Psychiatric Times[/URL]

But what does Harvard and Johns Hopkins know?

#1747382Post 15 of 21

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If I was conservative I wouldn't be here :lol: and I am not anti drugs . I just don't enjoy them very much myself. And as I said they do not enhance music for me, on the contrary. I read some of that stuff and it's all over the place. But it's not up to me one way or the other ,if people want to research great. But I will wait until we have results before I leap in with opinions. Then we can have a coherent conversation about it. That infusion thing was revolting :lol:

What concerns me is that it is so unregulated.

#1747383Post 16 of 21

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[QUOTE=DIDI;1167351]If I was conservative I wouldn't be here :lol: and I am not anti drugs . I just don't enjoy them very much myself. And as I said they do not enhance music for me, on the contrary. I read some of that stuff and it's all over the place. But it's not up to me one way or the other ,if people want to research great. But I will wait until we have results before I leap in with opinions. Then we can have a coherent conversation about it. That infusion thing was revolting :lol:

What concerns me is that it is so unregulated.[/QUOTE]

^Is this your idea of coherent?

#1747384Post 17 of 21

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1167352]^Is this your idea of coherent?[/QUOTE]

:Laugh::Laugh::Laugh::Laugh::roflmao:

#1747394Post 18 of 21

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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1167352]^Is this your idea of coherent?[/QUOTE]Sorry I overestimated your level of comprehension.

#1747395Post 19 of 21

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[quote=didi;1167363]sorry i overestimated your level of comprehension.[/quote]

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) lol

:)

#1747438Post 20 of 21

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lol….flo please don't ever do ketamine…ur khole will be pretty weird

#1747448Post 21 of 21

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It's not something I'm looking into for me brah.

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