I'm considering putting my kids into Private School. They are still young, but I would like my kids to have the best education. The fees are expensive by I think going for a 30 child classroom to an 8 child classroom would be better. Anyone here have children in private school?
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Private Schools
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no private school. there are public alternatives in case we feel that the school my 5 yr old is about to start isnt cutting it.
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best thing my parents did for me was send me to private elem school.
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probably depends on the kid. some kids thrive in public schools others do better in a private school. It's certainly and interesting topic. I didn't realize you had kids, cool. How old are they? I guess part of an education is getting a well rounded experience, preparing them for the world. Private schools here tend to be 95% white and wealthy, which is not what America is like, so it can be some what of a bubble. But then again, if the public school options are not good, then I can understand it.
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My daughter is not in a private school, she is however in a Catholic school with about 15 kids in her class.. she loves it. If you can afford it... 8 kids vs 30 is win win.
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I went to private school until 4th grade & was shocked how little actual work they did (& expected) in public school, how stifling the atmosphere was, & how awful the teachers were; public schools shuffle kids around like cattle & and warp any creativity or individuality right out of them, imo.
Give your kids the finest education you can afford while you can afford it because sometimes that changes. Do what you believe is best for your child and don't listen to what anyone else says.
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I'm about to send my eldest into an Educate Together school - a public school but not centred around the catholic church - times are changing in Ireland and I'm glad to be part of the change. Class size is about 30 but I've a really good feeling about the place.
It's a big decision for sure fella - how much are you talking for private school
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[QUOTE=Micko;1166775]I'm about to send my eldest into an Educate Together school - a public school but not centred around the catholic church - times are changing in Ireland and I'm glad to be part of the change. Class size is about 30 but I've a really good feeling about the place.
It's a big decision for sure fella - how much are you talking for private school[/QUOTE]
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Public schools are as good as the public make them . Even though they are not funded well here, some of the top schools are public. In fact the two that are consistently first and second every year are public schools. The kids from these two schools are many and varied , but the one thing most have in common is that they are a joy to know. :) People buy houses in the area of good schools, and pay a premium. They have done studies and it's not all about class number unless of course classes are ridiculously overcrowded. Also because public schools have to take everyone the kids are exposed to a much broader range of the population they tend to be more rounded.
Once children go to university it is the public school kids who do best. The private school kids tend to get everything handed to them them on a platter. That doesn't happen at University.
I tend to think you either put in money , or effort to help your local public school. If I was looking for a school now I would be looking at the best public schools .
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[QUOTE=Micko;1166775]I'm about to send my eldest into an Educate Together school - a public school but not centred around the catholic church - times are changing in Ireland and I'm glad to be part of the change. Class size is about 30 but I've a really good feeling about the place.
It's a big decision for sure fella - how much are you talking for private school[/QUOTE] Sounds good. :)
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[QUOTE=DIDI;1166801]Public schools are as good as the public make them . Even though they are not funded well here, some of the top schools are public. In fact the two that are consistently first and second every year are public schools. The kids from these two schools are many and varied , but the one thing most have in common is that they are a joy to know. :) People buy houses in the area of good schools, and pay a premium. They have done studies and it's not all about class number sunless of course classes are ridiculously overcrowded. Also because public schools have to take everyone the kids are exposed to a much broader range of the population they tend to be more rounded.
Once children go to university it is the public school kids who do best. The private school kids tend to get everything handed to them them on a platter. That doesn't happen at University.
I tend to think you either put in money , or effort to help your local public school. If I was looking for a school now I would be looking at the best public schools .[/QUOTE]
this is spot on.
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I couldn't DISagree more with what Didi and Orange say. Given they haven't actually sent their kids to any school, it's mainly speculation & from my experience, an idealistic point of view.
Here, there is a public school (at every stage) for every neighborhood. Rich neighborhoods have rich/high-tech schools, poorer neighborhoods have needy schools and ALL the parents put forth effort & money to make their schools better. The schools are run by taxes so whether it's public or private, you're paying.
Still, it depends on the area, the child, and whether or not the parents are making an effort to provide a "well rounded individual" who is exposed to different cultures and people, which can also occur through churches, activities, sports, etc. The school you attend is not the be-all, end-all and you can't paint a broad stroke and say "kids from private schools are this way, while kids from public schools are that way" that's just absurd. You might think you're buying a house in a good area with a good school, paying the premium and then the city changes the zones to open up to other areas OR the "good" school is poorly run and hires teachers who don't care.
There are far too many variables to paint with a broad stroke. AND a person is developed not only by the school they attend, the sports they play, or the activities they do after school. A person is developed by a variety of things in their life. Yes, it's not all about class size but if your child requires a different method of learning than most, better to have a teacher not spreading her time across 30+ kids where that child gets lost. Public schools start off teaching 3 main things to your child 1) how to walk in a line with the other kids without being disruptive 2) how to sit at your desk without being disruptive 3) how to do what you're told without being disruptive & The bonus: how to color within the lines. It's 90% behavior adjustment in a public school setting and 10% learning and they are there for many hours. Public schools in the U.S. are about test scores and performance marks. Private schools nurture the individual's strengths and helps them better with their weaknesses because the majority of the teachers are there because they care about learning, not about test scores or the latest public-school politics.
Now in some areas, there are top public schools here too, but very, very few. ALL schools depend on parents (public & private)... only in private (because you're paying an actual tuition) you have some leverage in what goes on that you don't have in public schools. and there are some horrible things that go on these days in public schools. Our kids go to good public schools with a wide, wide variety of kids (rich, poor, and middle) and each one has told me their main goal is to survive it... most teachers don't care, don't have the time, and do things strictly by the book or as told by the district/state. There's zero creativity, thinking outside the box, etc.
Put some kids thru school, then tell us how it is. Instead of driving fancy cars and living in a prestigious neighborhood. invest in your childs' well-being (especially when they're really young) & education and save yourself much headaches later. Public schools are nightmares these days... this is the internet age, it's not like when you were in school.
end of rant ;)
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"Given they haven't actually sent their kids to any school"
"Put some kids thru school, then tell us how it is. Instead of driving fancy cars and living in a prestigious neighborhood. invest in your childs' well-being (especially when they're really young) & education and save yourself much headaches later. Public schools are nightmares these days... this is the internet age, it's not like when you were in school."
This is downright insulting . Both to me personally and to many great public schools.
Once again you make assumptions :) And there seem to be a lot more in your post :)
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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1166812]I couldn't DISagree more with what Didi and Orange say. Given they haven't actually sent their kids to any school, it's mainly speculation & from my experience, an idealistic point of view.
Here, there is a public school (at every stage) for every neighborhood. Rich neighborhoods have rich/high-tech schools, poorer neighborhoods have needy schools and ALL the parents put forth effort & money to make their schools better. The schools are run by taxes so whether it's public or private, you're paying.
Still, it depends on the area, the child, and whether or not the parents are making an effort to provide a "well rounded individual" who is exposed to different cultures and people, which can also occur through churches, activities, sports, etc. The school you attend is not the be-all, end-all and you can't paint a broad stroke and say "kids from private schools are this way, while kids from public schools are that way" that's just absurd. You might think you're buying a house in a good area with a good school, paying the premium and then the city changes the zones to open up to other areas OR the "good" school is poorly run and hires teachers who don't care.
There are far too many variables to paint with a broad stroke. AND a person is developed not only by the school they attend, the sports they play, or the activities they do after school. A person is developed by a variety of things in their life. Yes, it's not all about class size but if your child requires a different method of learning than most, better to have a teacher not spreading her time across 30+ kids where that child gets lost. Public schools start off teaching 3 main things to your child 1) how to walk in a line with the other kids without being disruptive 2) how to sit at your desk without being disruptive 3) how to do what you're told without being disruptive & The bonus: how to color within the lines. It's 90% behavior adjustment in a public school setting and 10% learning and they are there for many hours. Public schools in the U.S. are about test scores and performance marks. Private schools nurture the individual's strengths and helps them better with their weaknesses because the majority of the teachers are there because they care about learning, not about test scores or the latest public-school politics.
Now in some areas, there are top public schools here too, but very, very few. ALL schools depend on parents (public & private)... only in private (because you're paying an actual tuition) you have some leverage in what goes on that you don't have in public schools. and there are some horrible things that go on these days in public schools. Our kids go to good public schools with a wide, wide variety of kids (rich, poor, and middle) and each one has told me their main goal is to survive it... most teachers don't care, don't have the time, and do things strictly by the book or as told by the district/state. There's zero creativity, thinking outside the box, etc.
Put some kids thru school, then tell us how it is. Instead of driving fancy cars and living in a prestigious neighborhood. invest in your childs' well-being (especially when they're really young) & education and save yourself much headaches later. Public schools are nightmares these days... this is the internet age, it's not like when you were in school.
end of rant ;)[/QUOTE] Just to make sure we don't lose it :)
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[QUOTE=DIDI;1166801]Public schools are as good as the public make them. [/QUOTE]
This seems logical, I know, but it's just not true. "The public" have very little say in what occurs in a public school. They are city-run, state-accountable, government accountable, and parents are at the bottom of the totem pole, yet these are OUR kids having to go to schools with other kids whose parents couldn't give a damn. Like Hoff said, they instill so much FEAR into your child from day 1, you'd be appalled. You watch helplessly as they are exposed to the way many kids are raised & heartless teachers, and watch their little minds just cave, lost in the midst of being controlled, squelched, & manipulated, pressured.
If you have the wealth to go private, go private and nurture those young minds while they're still malleable. "Broader range" of population does not equal a well-rounded individual.
Public schools nowadays are policed, all day, every day.. they have to be. It's not a place for learning... it's something to survive, something you "get through." I think that's really sad.
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[QUOTE=DIDI;1166814]Just to make sure we don't lose it :)[/QUOTE]
:Naughty: :roflmao:
you not my friend girlfriend!!! lol
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You've got kids in school Didi? You've actually researched what you claim?
Maybe things are just different in the U.S. My "assumptions" as you call them come from experience. Just stating my experience.
And I've come across far too many kids with parents in huge houses and fancy cars who's kids are in the public schools on drugs, into gambling, using people, and have no moral character in regards to others. There has to be less of that in private schools if only because there are less kids enrolled, plus in private schools you have to apply to even get your child in one so many are weeded out if they don't cut it and make an effort. (I think so anyway.)
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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1166817]You've got kids in school Didi? You've actually researched what you claim?
Maybe things are just different in the U.S. My "assumptions" as you call them come from experience. Just stating my experience.[/QUOTE] You should have realised by now that I don't comment lightly. You should also realise that I research ! Although it's none of your business , I have one child that I put through an amazing public school system, the public high school he went too was one of the those two schools that consistently rate 1 & 2, and he has done exceedingly well. There are people on here who know this :) But seeing this is a music site that is what I talk about the most. I don't think my son would appreciate me chatting about him here. :)
I know there may be differences between America and Australia but surely if we can manage great public schools you can too.
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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1166816]:Naughty: :roflmao:
you not my friend girlfriend!!! lol[/QUOTE] Why would you ever think I was?? I don't have a need to be everyones friend. ;)
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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1166815]This seems logical, I know, but it's just not true. "The public" have very little say in what occurs in a public school. They are city-run, state-accountable, government accountable, and parents are at the bottom of the totem pole, yet these are OUR kids having to go to schools with other kids whose parents couldn't give a damn. Like Hoff said, they instill so much FEAR into your child from day 1, you'd be appalled. You watch helplessly as they are exposed to the way many kids are raised & heartless teachers, and watch their little minds just cave, lost in the midst of being controlled, squelched, & manipulated, pressured.
If you have the wealth to go private, go private and nurture those young minds while they're still malleable. "Broader range" of population does not equal a well-rounded individual.[/QUOTE]
Is this familiar ??? "Do what you believe is best for your child and [SIZE=3]don't listen to what anyone else says[/SIZE]."
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^^ I still stand by that advice to Zover.
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Depends on city, school district, individual, parents, the individual private school and other factors. Both can be good options, not a black or white issue. Boston is a great example of a city with great public schools, California has great state colleges, and many cities do have great public school systems. I have friends that live in areas with not so good schools, so they choose private for their kids. But in the areas with great school districts parent involvement is also high.
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Maybe "great schools" is a perception rather than a sure-thing experience based on reputation (with the exception of schools in MA). Houses in our neighborhood sell within a week because of the perception of there being "great schools," which is nice for property values but the schools are over-crowded and it's luck of the draw if your child gets one of the "great teachers" at the school. Fortunately, ours have a had a few great ones, so I can't complain. But, overall, I still wish we could have sent them to private. (two started out in private.) And I still believe smaller class sizes are much, much better, especially for younger children (why would anyone argue against that?).
For most people, it's not a choice, it's what you can afford; for others, some have the means but are too cheap to go private or they believe it's more politically correct to go public rather than be perceived as elitists, which they are anyway. :D
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[QUOTE=DIDI;1166820]Why would you ever think I was?? I don't have a need to be everyones friend. ;)[/QUOTE]
I never thought you were; it was a joke.
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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1166963]Maybe "great schools" is a perception rather than a sure-thing experience based on reputation (with the exception of schools in MA). Houses in our neighborhood sell within a week because of the perception of there being "great schools," which is nice for property values but the schools are over-crowded and it's luck of the draw if your child gets one of the "great teachers" at the school. Fortunately, ours have a had a few great ones, so I can't complain. But, overall, I still wish we could have sent them to private. (two started out in private.) And I still believe smaller class sizes are much, much better, especially for younger children (why would anyone argue against that?).
For most people, it's not a choice, it's what you can afford; for others, some have the means but are too cheap to go private or they believe it's more politically correct to go public rather than be perceived as elitists, which they are anyway. :D[/QUOTE]
"For most people, it's not a choice, it's what you can afford; for others, some have the means but are too cheap to go private or they believe it's more politically correct to go public rather than be perceived as elitists, which they are anyway. "
Just to be clear,you are saying people who send their children to public school are cheap, politically correct elitists You don't see the irony in your statement . ???? :lol::lol: :lol:
An answer to that might be that there will be people that prefer to abrogate their responsibility in child upbringing to the school. Easier to pay someone else:) Or perhaps are more concerned about their social status. But that would be mostly wrong as well. I think the majority of parents want the best they possibly can for their children.
Sometimes the school is unimportant. The parent never is.
Your posts here are ridiculous , You have said here that ALL publics in America are rubbish. You cannot possibly know that. If you talk about experience you cannot possibly have experienced every public school in America. You have, just by your wildly misinformed "information" shown us research isn't top of the list before you start preaching to others.
You are the classic "You are allowed your own opinion, but not your own facts " persona.
My answer to the OPs original question. Firstly is probably look to your children and imagine the type of school you believe they would thrive in. There are a lot more questions than just public or private. Single sex, coed ?? religious ?? Look at the kids walking out the school gates , what are they like ?? The kids are the final product. :)
I was lucky in that I was able to live in the areas that had really good public schools. A big plus for me was the diversity in the public system. My son thrived . He was totally accepting of others regardless of race etc. His first girlfriend he described as brown eyes, black hair. He didn't seem to notice she was Chinese. :) I was very proud of that. He did well. He got his MBA at London Business School. Deans List. :) And he is a pretty nice person, except that he always thinks he knows better than me :lol:
One of the problems we have here is that even though they do receive government funding private schools do not have to take everyone. Your child still has to be approved. Plus they cherry pick promising students from public schools and give them scholarships to keep their scores up.
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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1166867]Depends on city, school district, individual, parents, the individual private school and other factors. Both can be good options, not a black or white issue. Boston is a great example of a city with great public schools, California has great state colleges, and many cities do have great public school systems. I have friends that live in areas with not so good schools, so they choose private for their kids. But in the areas with great school districts parent involvement is also high.[/QUOTE]
Really glad to read this , good to know your schools aren't all pits of hell :lol: Parent involvement is the a very large part of how good schools can be .
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The super funny, ironic, ridiculous thing is that you take this all so seriously meanwhile Zover (you know, the OP you care so much about) couldn't care less, he made the post to bait another member.
You're always misquoting & taking my words out of context. Like everything someone posts has to get thru your personal policing. That's beyond narcissistic. Note: you're no one to me & your opinion of me is devoid of any significance to anyone here, so, get over yourself.
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Please feel free to totally ignore me. :lol:
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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1166973]The super funny, ironic, ridiculous thing is that you take this all so seriously meanwhile Zover (you know, the OP you care so much about) couldn't care less, he made the post to bait another member. [/QUOTE]
Or did he? You know honey it's such a shame you'll never be any good at this game.
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Yikes
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She bruises to easily.
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[QUOTE=Zover;1167012]Or did he? You know honey it's such a shame you'll never be any good at this game.[/QUOTE]
Not a shame, best thing I've read all day
& thankfully not your honey! :D
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[QUOTE=KiwiTollway;1167030]Not a shame, best thing I've read all day
& thankfully not your honey! :D[/QUOTE]
Neither was Billy Bragg.
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Yeah I know. Zover takes pride in repeatedly shitting the bed in public and thinks of himself as a rock star when he does. But hey, being a master class in being a fuck up - this is probably a highlight of his life (other than sharing all the useless details of it whenever he can).
And he goes ballistic in 3...2...1.....
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Save it for the windows.
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See? That train's never late!
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I feel like that guy playing chess with the pigeon. Where the pigeon walks around on the board, shiting everywhere and knocking all the pieces over claiming they have won something. Only this pigeon can't move a piece in the right direction.
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[QUOTE=el presidente Highsteppa;1167034]Yeah I know. Zover takes pride in repeatedly shitting the bed in public and thinks of himself as a rock star when he does. But hey, being a master class in being a fuck up - this is probably a highlight of his life (other than sharing all the useless details of it whenever he can).
And he goes ballistic in 3...2...1.....[/QUOTE]
:lol:
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Let's stay on topic, it's an interesting thread.
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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1167041]Let's stay on topic, it's an interesting thread.[/QUOTE]
Still waiting for the cunt to take me apart piece by piece. That one goes into the [M.S] hall of fame.