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It's PARTYTIME in Scotland today
39 durable postsStarted 2013-04-08Latest 2013-04-18
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And ireland, and wales, and the north, and the midlands.
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[video=youtube;smzsIONNh0w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smzsIONNh0w[/video]
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[url="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305760/Margaret-Thatcher-dead-George-Galloway-leads-chorus-celebration-left.html"]Margaret Thatcher dead: George Galloway leads chorus of 'celebration' from the left | Mail Online[/url]
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[video=youtube;NzLJ39g8kWg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzLJ39g8kWg[/video]
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this is going to be a good fucking weekend i tell thee
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[QUOTE=audrey_w;1086536]And ireland, and wales, and the north, and the midlands.[/QUOTE]
And Argentina, Of course.
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[URL]http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/margaret-thatcher-dead-video-cheering-1818888?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/URL]
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Can someone really break it down for me why there are so many parties over her death? I get the jest of it, she was a hated PM, but what are the details of why she was so hated?
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obviously there are always many sides to every story and depending on your experiences of it, will be how you tell it.
I do give her major credit for being the first female Prime minster and because of her there are many more women in politics today.
However, she is despised because she put advocated a 'everyone for themselves' policy over community, trod on the poor at every possible opportunity and made the rich richer. She tried to decimate the National Health Service (from which it will probably never recover). Two of the biggest issues were that she put tens of thousands of people out of work in the north of England, Wales and Scotland. Entire generations were out of work due to the fast closure of many mines and the privatization of previous national entities such as British Coal and British gas. Unemployment was at its highest since the depression -and mainly focused on the north of the UK. On top of that she introduced the 'poll tax' an unfair way of national taxation that favored those of wealth. She tried out the scheme in Scotland only -alienating the entire nation and formalizing the view, that there will never again be a conservative presence in Scotland - and ultimately led to devolution. When the tax was introduced in England it resulting in the london riots and it was ultimately replaced due to public opinion. And then there was section 28 an anti-gay government scheme and her vilification of Liverpool supporters during the Hillsborough tragedy, refused to put sanctions on South African during Apartheid and named Nelson Mandela a terrorist (he was in jail for being black you may recall)... the list in endless.
(thats a mild review)
Divisive is perhaps the fairest summation of her reign!
I thought these front covers showed the range of opinions quite well - be sure to scroll down
[URL="http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/margaret-thatchers-death-as-told-by-newspaper-front-pages"]Margaret Thatchers Death, As Told By Newspaper Front Pages[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Huggie Smiles;1086687]obviously there are always many sides to every story and depending on your experiences of it, will be how you tell it.
I do give her major credit for being the first female Prime minster and because of her there are many more women in politics today.
However, she is despised because she put advocated a 'everyone for themselves' policy over community, trod on the poor at every possible opportunity and made the rich richer. She tried to decimate the National Health Service (from which it will probably never recover). Two of the biggest issues were that she put tens of thousands of people out of work in the north of England, Wales and Scotland. Entire generations were out of work due to the fast closure of many mines and the privatization of previous national entities such as British Coal and British gas. Unemployment was at its highest since the depression -and mainly focused on the north of the UK. On top of that she introduced the 'poll tax' an unfair way of national taxation that favored those of wealth. She tried out the scheme in Scotland only -alienating the entire nation and formalizing the view, that there will never again be a conservative presence in Scotland - and ultimately led to devolution. When the tax was introduced in England it resulting in the london riots and it was ultimately replaced due to public opinion. And then there was section 28 an anti-gay government scheme and her vilification of Liverpool supporters during the Hillsborough tragedy, refused to put sanctions on South African during Apartheid and named Nelson Mandela a terrorist (he was in jail for being black you may recall)... the list in endless.
(thats a mild review)
Divisive is perhaps the fairest summation of her reign!
I thought these front covers showed the range of opinions quite well - be sure to scroll down
[URL="http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/margaret-thatchers-death-as-told-by-newspaper-front-pages"]Margaret Thatchers Death, As Told By Newspaper Front Pages[/URL][/QUOTE]
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not to mention her ireland policy as well
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^^^ I didnt even want to open that door..........
and now back to the perty
(note this is from 2008!)
[video=youtube;YvzjB-lX4Is]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YvzjB-lX4Is[/video]
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and 2012
[video=youtube;x-4FJcnX0i8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-4FJcnX0i8[/video]
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Jelly and Ice Cream :lol:
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[QUOTE=audrey_w;1086710]Jelly and Ice Cream :lol:[/QUOTE]
i,m gonna be 20 kilo heavier by the end of the weekend lol
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"There is no such thing as society" - Margaret Thatcher, 1988
"There is no such thing as Margaret Thatcher" - Society, 2013
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I can't believe some British are this stupid. If it weren't for Thatcher you would be now bailed out by Ze Germans as the Greeks, Spanish, Italians and Portuguese are.
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[QUOTE=foreks;1086723]I can't believe some British are this stupid. If it weren't for Thatcher you would be now bailed out by Ze Germans as the Greeks, Spanish, Italians and Portuguese are.[/QUOTE]
you think so ? lol u obviously have no idea how it works here, the way she set it up everything north of london got fucked up
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[URL="http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/margaret-thatcher-war-on-rave-acid-house-boys-own?fb_action_ids=10152716972280392&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%2210152716972280392%22%3A453296401414956%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210152716972280392%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D"]http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/margaret-thatcher-war-on-rave-acid-house-boys-own?fb_action_ids=10152716972280392&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%2210152716972280392%22%3A453296401414956%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210152716972280392%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D[/URL]
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[QUOTE=foreks;1086723]I can't believe some British are this stupid. If it weren't for Thatcher you would be now bailed out by Ze Germans as the Greeks, Spanish, Italians and Portuguese are.[/QUOTE]
you are posting from Warsaw Poland? The same Poland of Lech Wałęsa the dissident trade-union activist from the shipyards ? The same shipyards that maggie shut across the UK ?
Just checking :)
this is a fun thread not a fight.
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[QUOTE=Huggie Smiles;1086687]obviously there are always many sides to every story and depending on your experiences of it, will be how you tell it.
I do give her major credit for being the first female Prime minster and because of her there are many more women in politics today.
However, she is despised because she put advocated a 'everyone for themselves' policy over community, trod on the poor at every possible opportunity and made the rich richer. She tried to decimate the National Health Service (from which it will probably never recover). Two of the biggest issues were that she put tens of thousands of people out of work in the north of England, Wales and Scotland. Entire generations were out of work due to the fast closure of many mines and the privatization of previous national entities such as British Coal and British gas. Unemployment was at its highest since the depression -and mainly focused on the north of the UK. On top of that she introduced the 'poll tax' an unfair way of national taxation that favored those of wealth. She tried out the scheme in Scotland only -alienating the entire nation and formalizing the view, that there will never again be a conservative presence in Scotland - and ultimately led to devolution. When the tax was introduced in England it resulting in the london riots and it was ultimately replaced due to public opinion. And then there was section 28 an anti-gay government scheme and her vilification of Liverpool supporters during the Hillsborough tragedy, refused to put sanctions on South African during Apartheid and named Nelson Mandela a terrorist (he was in jail for being black you may recall)... the list in endless.
(thats a mild review)
Divisive is perhaps the fairest summation of her reign!
I thought these front covers showed the range of opinions quite well - be sure to scroll down
[URL="http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/margaret-thatchers-death-as-told-by-newspaper-front-pages"]Margaret Thatchers Death, As Told By Newspaper Front Pages[/URL][/QUOTE]
Thanks. I see why she's hated now.
I don't get why she said "there is no such thing as society," though. wtf kind of person like that gets elected into office?
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a fairly one sided piece but: [URL]http://www.salon.com/2013/04/09/the_woman_who_wrecked_great_britain/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=floridaorange;1086635]Can someone really break it down for me why there are so many parties over her death? I get the jest of it, she was a hated PM, but what are the details of why she was so hated?[/QUOTE]
Calling Augusto Pinochet (as in the Chilean dictator) a friend of Britain might be a good start.
Calling Nelson Mandela and the ANC a group of terrorists might be another one.
And the stuff mentioned by Huggie as well.
As a woman who broke the glass ceiling - I have to give her a lot of respect for managing to lead and become Prime Minister - it's just a shame that her foreign and domestic policies are a lot of trainwrecks.
She's not really much better than Reagan in the sense that she adopted the same ideology of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", which really shows a tendency to backfire horribly.
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[QUOTE=Huggie Smiles;1086687] refused to put sanctions on South African during Apartheid and named Nelson Mandela a terrorist (he was in jail for being black you may recall)... the list in endless.[/QUOTE]
Nelson Mandela as described by Wikipedia: A [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xhosa_people"]Xhosa[/URL] born to the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thembu"]Thembu[/URL] royal family, Mandela attended [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hare_University"]Fort Hare University[/URL] and the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Witwatersrand"]University of Witwatersrand[/URL], studying law. Living in [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannesburg"]Johannesburg[/URL] townships and becoming involved in anti-colonial politics, he joined the ANC, becoming a founding member of its [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_National_Congress_Youth_League"]Youth League[/URL]. After the Afrikaner nationalists of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Party_(South_Africa)"]National Party[/URL] came to power in 1948 and began implementing the policy of apartheid, he rose to prominence in the ANC's 1952 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defiance_Campaign"]Defiance Campaign[/URL], being elected president of the Transvaal ANC branch and overseeing the 1955 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_of_the_People_(1955)"]Congress of the People[/URL]. Working as a lawyer, he was repeatedly arrested for [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition"]seditious[/URL] activities and with the ANC leadership stood on the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_Trial"]Treason Trial[/URL] from 1956 to 1961, being found not guilty.[B][U] Although initially committed to non-violent protest, in association with the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Communist_Party"]South African Communist Party[/URL] he co-founded the militant [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_we_Sizwe"]Umkhonto we Sizwe[/URL] (MK) in 1961, leading a bombing campaign against government targets. In 1962 he was arrested and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivonia_Trial"]convicted of sabotage and conspiracy to overthrow the government[/URL], being sentenced to life imprisonment[/U][/B]. Unfortunately for the white South African being bombed in homes, shopping centres and bars - they were terrorists, and as a policeman in the 80's I saw the results of Umkhonto we Sizwe first hand. As they say one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter .
[QUOTE=Highsteppa;1086771] Calling Nelson Mandela and the ANC a group of terrorists might be another one.
[/QUOTE] Google ANC bombings
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[QUOTE=foreks;1086723]I can't believe some British are this stupid. If it weren't for Thatcher you would be now bailed out by Ze Germans as the Greeks, Spanish, Italians and Portuguese are.[/QUOTE]
Ah the Germans, yes. They'll be the economic success story that nurtured and invested in it's manufacturing and engineering skills, as opposed to systematically destroying them and creating an imaginary economic growth bubble.
[video=youtube;XDtClJYJBj8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XDtClJYJBj8#![/video]
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[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306655/Ding-Dong-The-Witch-Is-Dead-BBC-dilemma-playing-song-Margaret-Thatcher-dies.html?ICO=most_read_module[/URL] :lol:
[video=youtube;rHJoj9IqeKg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj9IqeKg[/video]
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context for the society quote: [url="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/08/context-for-margaret-thatcher-s-there-is-no-such-thing-as-society-remarks.html"]Context for Margaret Thatcher's 'There is No Such Thing as Society' Remarks - The Daily Beast[/url]
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[QUOTE=nick007;1086840]. Unfortunately for the white South African being bombed in homes, shopping centres and bars - they were terrorists, and as a policeman in the 80's I saw the results of Umkhonto we Sizwe first hand. As they say one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter . [/QUOTE]
but Mandela was not accused of that. He fully admitted to bombing electric power stations with no human targets in his trial and his closing arguments speech .
His conviction speech is an amazing piece of political theory IMHO - highlighting the awful disparity between white and black political power, education and living conditions - whilst outlining his his hoped for equality by bringing in the UK political system, the US congress and even the magna carter
[URL="http://www.rfksafilm.org/html/speeches/mandela.php"]Other Speeches : Nelson Mandela, at the Rivonia Trial[/URL] [URL="http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mandela/mandelaaccount.html"]The Nelson Mandela (Rivonia) Trial: An Account[/URL]
Violence is awful in any siutation.
growing up seeing the necklacing torture/deaths is one of the most awful things I've ever seen on TV. and of course it was all the Brits fault by setting up the system to begin with (as was India, Australia, Pakistan, Rhodesia etc etc etc etc damn British Empire)
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[URL="http://imgur.com/a/uQjWZ#2"]http://imgur.com/a/uQjWZ#3[/URL]
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[URL]http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/09/russell-brand-margaret-thatcher[/URL]
^^^ thats a really hard read but he makes some interesting points
[URL]http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjllua[/URL]
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[IMG]http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/margaret-thatcher-hillsborough-letter.jpg[/IMG]
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south Yorkshire apparently:
[URL]http://imgur.com/a/TavAA[/URL]
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[URL]http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2013/04/18/the-unrehearsed-voiceover-artist-the-funeral-of-baroness-thatcher/[/URL]
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Good old British humour it's Raoul Moat all over again. LOL
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[COLOR=#f0ffff][FONT=lucida grande]Katherine Jenkins' cleavage at the funeral yesterday was amazing - even Thatcher was stiff.[/FONT][/COLOR]