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People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat
29 durable postsStarted 2013-03-07Latest 2013-03-16
Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat
:lol: really?
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Is that German or what ?? I can't even translate it. :lol:
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^ seems legit.
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[QUOTE=sbando;1082422]Let's debate.
The correct avatar would have been a sealed box. Inside the box, Schrodinger is liked and unliked.
Actually: there's is no box and, until you mess with it, Schrodinger is everywhere at the same time in the Universe.[/QUOTE]
Talk about missing the point of the experiment.
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you just blew my mind
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[QUOTE=sbando;1082491]Talking about not getting the experiment at all!
Simpler metaphor for you:
Breton's Fish (as in André Breton):
There's a lake with a fish in it, just one. There's a fisherman. When the fisherman catches the fish, the fish is at the end of the fishing pole. When the fish is free, the fish is EVERYWHERE in the lake at the same time.[/QUOTE]
Yep, let's muddle QP with Philosophy, cause that will explain it :)
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Gonna have to come back and check out this thread. Looks promising...
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[QUOTE=sbando;1082528]I'm quantum trolling, K., c'mon.
Breton's apologue is quite accurate, actually. A particle exists everywhere until you try and observe it. Yet, two particles can have a special connection (changing one will change the other too). Even if they're millions light years apart. Information is transmitted at the speeed of light no matter where the two linked particles are (Quantum Enlightment, commonly used in everyday electronics, one day the basis for quantum calculators).
Both Breton's story and Schrodinger's grumpy cat were the first attempts at explaining QP outside of pure maths.[/QUOTE]
You're posting multiple quantum theories and presuming they are associated with Schrodinger's experiment. The quantum theory that explains the wave / particle nature of photons (or matter) is called "wave-particle duality" where a photon behaves like a wave when not observed and like a particle when it is observed. The "special connection" property of photons (or even matter) you describe is called quantum entanglement - as described by Einstein "spooky action at a distance".
If I understood Schrodinger's experiment correctly, he was primarily trying to explain the wave-particle duality whereby opening the box to observe if the cat was dead or alive collapses the wave function of matter causing the radio-active material to decay into an expected state resulting in the release of cyanide thereby killing the cat. The experiment therefore hypothesizes that as far as the box remains unopened (or unobserved), the quantum state of the radio-active material remains in it's wave-form i.e. decayed or intact at the same time, thereby keeping the cat dead and alive at the same time.
Just like my avatar ;) - get it?
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[QUOTE=sbando;1082528]I'm quantum trolling, K., c'mon.
Breton's apologue is quite accurate, actually. A particle exists everywhere until you try and observe it. Yet, two particles can have a special connection (changing one will change the other too). Even if they're millions light years apart. Information is transmitted at the speeed of light no matter where the two linked particles are (Quantum Enlightment, commonly used in everyday electronics, one day the basis for quantum calculators).
Both Breton's story and Schrodinger's grumpy cat were the first attempts at explaining QP outside of pure maths.[/QUOTE]
Mariner, is that you?
[FONT=arial][QUOTE=Kamal;1082932] thereby keeping the cat dead and alive at the same time.[/QUOTE] [/FONT] Well obviously :lol:.... no really wtf?
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[QUOTE=sbando;1082942] I'm not fucking Niels Bohr.[/QUOTE]
Then who are you fucking?
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[QUOTE=sbando;1082942]No, he was trying to put in human sentences (still not layman's^) the so-called Uncertainty Principle. It applies to everything stated above, photons and particles behaving weirdly: until you try and observe them they're not only alive and dead, they're every state possible and everywhere.
I was just joking, you silly! Just to chat QP a bit. Entanglement = slip, I was just quoting randomly, I'm not fucking Niels Bohr.[/QUOTE]
I know you were joking, welcome to being trolled :p
Btw Uncertainty principle IS a component of wave-particle duality.
But since we are on the topic, how boring was the discovery of the Higgs Boson. I was expecting fireworks, quantum teleportation and wormhole creations popping up left right and center when in fact they said they found it, and that was that.
Mmmmkay, next?
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[quote=floridaorange;1082951]then who are you fucking?[/quote]
ym?
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y'all just physically trolled...classic
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LOL, my idiocy is beyond forward-thinking. Progressive Idiocy.
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[QUOTE=sbando;1082406]Here's another one:
[IMG]http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c354/sbando/MS/download_zps50ee7880.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=sbando;1082422]Let's debate.
The correct avatar would have been a sealed box. Inside the box, Schrodinger is liked and unliked.
Actually: there's is no box and, until you mess with it, Schrodinger is everywhere at the same time in the Universe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kamal;1082932]You're posting multiple quantum theories and presuming they are associated with Schrodinger's experiment. The quantum theory that explains the wave / particle nature of photons (or matter) is called "wave-particle duality" where a photon behaves like a wave when not observed and like a particle when it is observed. The "special connection" property of photons (or even matter) you describe is called quantum entanglement - as described by Einstein "spooky action at a distance".
If I understood Schrodinger's experiment correctly, he was primarily trying to explain the wave-particle duality whereby opening the box to observe if the cat was dead or alive collapses the wave function of matter causing the radio-active material to decay into an expected state resulting in the release of cyanide thereby killing the cat. The experiment therefore hypothesizes that as far as the box remains unopened (or unobserved), the quantum state of the radio-active material remains in it's wave-form i.e. decayed or intact at the same time, thereby keeping the cat dead and alive at the same time.
Just like my avatar [IMG]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif[/IMG] - get it?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=floridaorange;1082934]Mariner, is that you?
[FONT=arial] [/FONT] Well obviously [IMG]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif[/IMG].... no really wtf?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=sbando;1082942]No, he was trying to put in human sentences (still not layman's^) the so-called Uncertainty Principle. It applies to everything stated above, photons and particles behaving weirdly: until you try and observe them they're not only alive and dead, they're every state possible and everywhere.
I was just joking, you silly! Just to chat QP a bit. Entanglement = slip, I was just quoting randomly, I'm not fucking Niels Bohr.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=floridaorange;1082951]Then who are you fucking?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kamal;1082952]I know you were joking, welcome to being trolled [IMG]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif[/IMG]
Btw Uncertainty principle IS a component of wave-particle duality.
But since we are on the topic, how boring was the discovery of the Higgs Boson. I was expecting fireworks, quantum teleportation and wormhole creations popping up left right and center when in fact they said they found it, and that was that.
Mmmmkay, next?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=sbando;1082980]I seriously wanted to count the shits I give about the politics involved into the Higgs announcement, I meant it, but by not caring I changed the results!
The man himself is still very prudent, the politics and fund-raising maybe rushed it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=sbando;1082981]ym?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=trick12;1082996]y'all just physically trolled...classic[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=sbando;1082999]LOL, my idiocy is beyond forward-thinking. Progressive Idiocy.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=sbando;1082528]
Both Breton's story and Schrodinger's grumpy cat were the first attempts at explaining QP outside of pure maths.[/QUOTE]
you're making the assumption the cat is grumpy
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