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Which pill would you take when you found out the Matrix was real?

28 durable postsStarted 2012-12-17Latest 2012-12-21

#126597Post 1 of 282012-12-17

[url="http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2012-10/how-do-we-know-were-not-living-inside-massive-computer-simulation"]How Do We Know Were Not Living Inside A Massive Computer Simulation? | Popular Science[/url] :shock::shock:

#1659082Post 2 of 282012-12-17

Re: Which pill would you take when you found out the Matrix was real?

Someone is watching too much television.

#1659087Post 3 of 282012-12-17

Re: Which pill would you take when you found out the Matrix was real?

Read about this, quite fascinating.

But

[QUOTE]In the world of theoretical physics, things can more or less be limitless, but in computers things have to have limits. This is one of the problems with these kinds of simulations; the laws of physics have to be placed in a constrained, 3-D space--a lattice--that is limited by the nature of the computer sim.[/QUOTE]

if there're superbeings simulating us, would they not be operating from a higher dimension and our 3D is only an extrusion from their dimension?

Stands to reason that we live in a 3D system so the beings simulating us are not part of this 3D system but at a higher hierarchy. Like how scientists would look down into lab rats in a maze.

#1659095Post 4 of 282012-12-17

Re: Which pill would you take when you found out the Matrix was real?

You're absolutely right, which is why I don't believe in the humanized depiction of God. But by virtue of the experiment, they are looking to replicate documented ways in which the quantum world works vs. if it will in fact work in the simulation. The rest of the article from what you quoted goes on to read

[QUOTE]Beane and his colleagues are exploring whether or not these lattices alter the physical processes we have observed in the universe. Specifically, they are looking at high energy processes, which get smaller and smaller the more energetic they become. Beane and company have found that these 3-D lattices impose a limit on the amount of energy these processes can have, because nothing occurring within the sim can be smaller than the lattice itself. So, if we are living inside of a computer program, there should be a fundamental limit within the spectrum of high energy particles, like cosmic ray particles.

And there is. That’s the GZK cut off. It’s well-studied and well-defined, and occurs because over time and distance cosmic ray particles interact with the cosmic microwave background and lose energy. So, if Beane and his friends are correct, we can measure cosmic ray particles--using existing technology--to see if they behave in the way theoretical physics says they should, or if they behave as we might expect them to in a computer simulation. If we found that the cosmic waves behave in a particular way, we would basically be able to see the construction of the simulation lattice--and confirm that we are indeed living in a computer simulation.[/QUOTE]

I'm not as concerned about poking into the quantum world like this, I'm just worried how it would change everyone's perception to the rest of their lives if the outcome was positive.

#1659097Post 5 of 282012-12-17

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I suppose it could go two ways: Some people might value life less, some others might feel there is life after death.

I'm really fascinated by this, just about to finish a scifi novel by Ian M Banks called The Hydrogen Sonata which details a civilisation subliming to a higher dimension :lol:

#1659113Post 6 of 282012-12-17

Re: Which pill would you take when you found out the Matrix was real?

[QUOTE=feather;1073243]I suppose it could go two ways: Some people might value life less, some others might feel there is life after death.

I'm really fascinated by this, just about to finish a scifi novel by Ian M Banks called The Hydrogen Sonata which details a civilisation subliming to a higher dimension :lol:[/QUOTE]

Sober or otherwise, I love unrelenting debates into the world of "what if" scenarios. Being unable to comprehend outside our 3 dimensions, we just don't know what truly lies out there.

#1659199Post 7 of 282012-12-17

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Cool stuff, I'd love to live in a Matrix like Joe Pantoliano does when he betrays his pals.

#1659200Post 8 of 282012-12-17

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the one that gets me out. Forever.

#1659201Post 9 of 282012-12-17

Re: Which pill would you take when you found out the Matrix was real?

'Do you know why you're here? This, is why, you're here!'

#1659214Post 10 of 282012-12-18

Re: Which pill would you take when you found out the Matrix was real?

I took the red pill along time ago.

#1659235Post 11 of 282012-12-18

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i took lots of white ones!!!

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#1659236Post 12 of 282012-12-18

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upupdowndownleftrightleftrightBAstart :Naughty:

#1659248Post 13 of 282012-12-18

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#1659265Post 14 of 282012-12-18

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is now an ok time to ask what your Avatar is Kamal? :lol:

#1659269Post 15 of 282012-12-18

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#1659274Post 16 of 282012-12-18

Re: Which pill would you take when you found out the Matrix was real?

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: WTF

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#1659275Post 17 of 282012-12-18

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:lol: :lol:

#1659359Post 18 of 282012-12-19

Re: Which pill would you take when you found out the Matrix was real?

I would take the Mitsubishi :D

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#1659360Post 19 of 282012-12-19

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#1659380Post 20 of 282012-12-19

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Got round to watching Zeitgeist recently, that was interesting to say the least! 8)

#1659389Post 21 of 282012-12-19

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kamal is your article in agreement or opposition with this article?

[url="https://www.bigquestionsonline.com/content/does-quantum-physics-make-it-easier-believe-god"]Does Quantum Physics Make it Easier to Believe in God?[/url]

[FONT=arial] [QUOTE] If the mathematics of quantum mechanics is right (as most fundamental physicists believe), and if materialism is right, one is forced to accept the Many Worlds Interpretation of quantum mechanics. And that is awfully heavy baggage for materialism to carry. If, on the other hand, we accept the more traditional understanding of quantum mechanics that goes back to von Neumann, one is led by its logic (as Wigner and Peierls were) to the conclusion that not everything is just matter in motion, and that in particular there is something about the human mind that transcends matter and its laws. It then becomes possible to take seriously certain questions that materialism had ruled out of court: If the human mind transcends matter to some extent, could there not exist minds that transcend the physical universe altogether? And might there not even exist an ultimate Mind?[/QUOTE][/FONT]

#1659392Post 22 of 282012-12-19

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^BS. If anything, QM excludes a Maker and a Mind, because it's simply impossible to have one unless you try and measure it, which will screw the results. No cause and effect, no acts and consequences. Since current theories agree on the existence of multiple universes, the idea of a God is even more stone age magik.

#1659395Post 23 of 282012-12-19

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More or less what bando boy said, Quantum Physics doesn't make it easier to believe in God, it makes it easier to prove he probably is just another living being that's probably older than the universe (since he created it) OR created this simulation that makes us believe we just burst into existence.

If you try to read up on what materialism stands for, quantum physics on the whole does not agree with it. In fact, they are at opposites because materialism (loosely) dictates that all the (physical) matter that there ever will be, already is, and energy is completely independent of it - when in fact, e=mc2 tells us that matter is nothing but the condensation of massive amounts of energy. So I believe the writer of that article might not be expressing what he wishes to in the best of ways.

Given that I'm not a mathematician of any sorts, I fail to see how they managed to drag the theory of many worlds into it. I mean if you believe in the theory of materialism, then how can you accept there could be multiple universes, which is a complete derivation of quantum physics/mechanics. And what does the human mind have to do with ANY of it?

Sounds like something Deepak Chopra would concoct, a hodge-podge of catchy quantum words riddled together to befuddle the listener.

[video=youtube;qySx8tSs8BQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qySx8tSs8BQ[/video]

#1659401Post 24 of 282012-12-19

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^Well said, since the Quantum world is so fuquing unfathomable outside of pure mathematics (REMEMBER: any other description outside of maths is just an attempt and a half-assed one), the quantum "hodge-podge" is a way to to justify any theory. Since matter is "CRAZY, man!" and weird stuff happens under our eyes (Enlightment), then anything, from god to ancient aliens, can be explained by QP.

Actually, it's not about matter or reality anymore. It's the fact that we cannot determine ANYTHING. Thus, the idea of a maker is pointless.

#1659479Post 25 of 282012-12-20

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[QUOTE=fatalfelix;1073555]I would take the Mitsubishi :D

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#1659499Post 26 of 282012-12-20

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Great Gus/Hoff moment there.

#1659502Post 27 of 282012-12-20

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I'd take both pills.

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#1663462Post 28 of 282012-12-21

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Just two pills? Well same as above, have both at once & go try & find another 5 to make it through the night.

Nah over pills now...

Heard about this potential computer simulation a few months ago on radio...was quite interesting...it got quite deep.