Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

^ +1. I will only add that I'm super disappointed with the decision to ban certain members from GYY as I really do miss them here. And I would ask the mods to consider lifting the ban. I won't mention this again, and thanks, good job guys! : )

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

seriously, someone needs to bring them back or say why they were blocked and not keep ignoring members requests??!!!

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

If I may, I suggest the those here who are online friends with others on MS consider exchanging emails and phone numbers. Some people will leave Mercury Server for extended periods of time because they are busy, others will take a break, some will simply move on and a select few might even get banned (happens on all online forums, after repeated warnings of course). I've met many members here in person, talked on the phone, added them on FB, emails, etc. This way, not only will you stay in touch despite a persons participation on MS, you might just make a real friend.

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

Great advise and I do keep in contact with other members outside of MS.

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

looooool

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

^ What's so funny? :)

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

oh it wasnt for u chanty, it was for the genius advise for the members who are friends of other members that are also online members or banned members and the exchanging of their members email of members in case those members are not members anymembers..

Nevermind

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

Thats a lot of members.

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

Look, I'm going to try to write this with emotion but I'm bad with words so I'll do my best. I realize some of you don't agree with the way this place is moderated, but the reality is that there will always be people here who don't agree with my actions, and those who do. Whether you consider 2k active members or 48k total members, there's just no way around it. Ten years later, coming here has become only a chore as nearly every visit reminds me that half of you see me as a dictator because you disagree with one of the hundreds of aspects of the forum that I have to deal with.

Some of you think this place needs moderated more, others think less, some want folks banned, others want them unbanned. All I ask is that each of you consider that the things that are done here are done not due to malicious behavior on my side, but because it's believed that they're the right thing for the community. Every detail of discussion or decision that takes place does not need to be shared here, because the members would further divide themselves as the alphas try to drive their point across. For example, any member who has been moderated or banned has always been given warnings (in private) to change their behavior before doing so. When a decision is finally made, it's because I get tired of giving warnings. The reality is that this place is only an unpaid job, a chore which is rewarded only with criticism.

No successful business, organization, charity, etc. ever gets anywhere without leadership. I don't care if you disagree with what I do or are disappointed with my decisions... all I ask is that everyone stop demanding things from me, because it does nothing but make me enjoy this place that much less.

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

Trick, thank you for harassing our members. You helped to demonstrate with a live example why I have to make hard decisions against active members.

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

[QUOTE=picklemonkey;1067987]Trick, thank you for harassing our members.[/QUOTE]

which members?

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

My apologies Adam, I didn't intend to upset you. To be honest, I guess I didn't consider this from your point of view and the grand scheme of things. I'm also super sorry to hear that you don't enjoy it here and it feels like an unpaid job for you. I truly thank you for keeping this a pleasant/fun place for me to enjoy over the past 6 years or however long it's been!

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

i'm sorry this place is a chore for the admins. it's still just as fun for me as it ever was though. :Nice:

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

It's either do what we do and ignore member questions about our decisions or post discussions about our actions and make a mockery of the system. Either ways when hard decisions are made, we will be the bad guys. Which is fine, I'm not running for president, I already am :p

But jokes apart, what Adam said is spot on, there are countless exchanges, temp bans, further exchanges (in the hopes of amending people's behaviors) and actions before the permanent ban hammer comes down. If history of [ms] serves as any reminder to the friendly environment we have tried to maintain here, I have been the last advocate for permanent bans. It's only when people who we communicate with on an ongoing basis that continue to ignore what's being advised to them, that I finally gave in and agreed to start removing people's access.

Chunky is one such example and if memory serves me right, is the first member to befall that fate.

He went from being moderator (received numerous warnings) to being a member (received further numerous warnings from Adam and myself) to receiving uncountable temp bans (received further warnings) and was eventually ousted, only to make a mockery of the system and return back and show his true colors.

The following bans are not permanent. Both didi and bobjuice are very much active here (yet another example of our unwillingness to perm-bans as they are productive members who post good music and good contributors to the community), they just don't have access to GYY anymore for private reasons.

I do not believe our decisions and subsequent actions need a stamp of approval, but a level of transparency to keep the board sentiment in shape is needed from time to time and I hope this post addresses that need.

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

Wow... never really thought it would come to this...appreciate all the mods do around here.

[ms] has been my online home for so many years.... I just hope that we don't fuck it up any more ...then we all would really miss this incredible site :(

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

Adam & Kamal.....I already know how hard the two of you & all the other mods work to keep this place going & it saddens me to see you go unappreciated. This forum has gone through a lot over the years from laughter to heartache, without you guys it never would of made it this far. I just want to thank you for all that you do & hopefully people will start to realize this & appreciate it. xox

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

^ +1

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

[QUOTE=picklemonkey;1067986]For example, any member who has been moderated or banned has always been given warnings (in private) to change their behavior before doing so. When a decision is finally made, it's because I get tired of giving warnings. The reality is that this place is only an unpaid job, a chore which is rewarded only with criticism.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kamal;1068052]It's either do what we do and ignore member questions about our decisions or post discussions about our actions and make a mockery of the system. Chunky is one such example and if memory serves me right, is the first member to befall that fate.

He went from being moderator (received numerous warnings) to being a member (received further numerous warnings from Adam and myself) to receiving uncountable temp bans (received further warnings) and was eventually ousted, only to make a mockery of the system and return back and show his true colors.[/QUOTE]

lol.. Back! LOL

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

out of curiosity how long or how many posts does a new member have his posts moderated before they post automatically

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

Until it can be determined that the new members are not trollers in disguise. I'm sorry this has caused your posts to be delayed... a very small number of people have ruined the experience for new members

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

yup no worries we have similar problems on the Bedrock board so totally understand, just seems like I'm having a very disjointed conversation ha ha

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

I am wainting for more then 24 hhours for my post to be approved.

Be sure that with this kind of treatment you will definetilly losing your user. I am sure you will lose me if I am going to wait another day.

In my opinion all should be able to post. Simply ban the users with bad behaviours and language if you consider the case!

That's all I have to say.

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

Thanks, I'll PM you when we start collecting opinions, until then, please abide by the board rules.

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

"new members" don't usually get pissed off before they become members on [I]any[/I] message board.

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

With 6 posts in 7 years, you probably weren't really "waiting"

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

:lol:

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

lol @ pickle

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

Oh so this is why my posts keep having to be checked by mods. I understand, I'll just contribute whenever I have something to contribute and hope I'm not considered a troll.

Goodluck with the forum, mods! :)

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

^Yep - one bad apple... and a couple bad apple seedlings :lol:

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

This bit comes up at the top of the page all the time so I had a read through and have to say I can't make any sense of what's written here. I realise I'm still a noob but did I miss something?

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

there were a few people here who were cool as fuck, but a bit rough to some of the other posters. one of them (or a couple of them?) got banned a few times and kept making new accounts to come back and abuse people. cool people who brought a lot to the board and it was really sad to see them act like middle schoolers

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

[QUOTE=tiddles;1099683]there were a few people here who were cool as fuck, but a bit rough to some of the other posters. one of them (or a couple of them?) got banned a few times and kept making new accounts to come back and abuse people. cool people who brought a lot to the board and it was really sad to see them act like middle schoolers[/QUOTE]

unfortunately the cool people have left and the bell ends are still here, spamming the board with their photos.

Re: Strict Forum Moderation, effective 10-15-2012

[QUOTE=King Coe;1117273]spamming the board with their photos.[/QUOTE]

Your problem seems to be the photos, but its not necessary a photo to spam, Some members can spam in differents ways.