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The Olympics vs. Starvation (debate)

33 durable postsStarted 2012-08-09Latest 2012-08-16
#121570Post 1 of 33

I didn't want to hijack the other thread, but here I'd like to discuss the funding of the olympics vs. starvation.

The olympics do not directly feed the mouths of the hungry, but they do seem to help unify the world and give kids and young adults aspirations to do the same. Most of the athletes are sort of like ambassadors for their country, representing large and small populations of people from across the globe.

I can't help but think space exploration is kind of like the olympics of science. The worlds best and brightest work for Nasa, not just Americans. NASA also reminds us to dream and dream big. That is something the majority of the world also tunes into.

And although the olympics and NASA aren't probably the first thing someone who is starving will turn on TV and watch (since they likely do not have TV's), (although they may have access to a TV in a public square, but I digress), they do give hope and aspirational goals to many many people in the world. These kinds of large scale reminders that together we can solve problems (and do). Look at Bill and Melinda Gates and countless other wealthy individuals who serve the world on a massive scale. Then there are people like my Uncles, they grew up playing sports. Sports teaches people numerous lessons about life. They are philanthropists, and serve the least of these on a daily basis in their local cities.

Do the Olympics cost a lot of money? Sure they do... Does NASA spend a lot of money? Obviously. But do the worlds problems supersede mankinds destiny to explore the world we live in, from the depths of the sea (such as James Cameron and others), or for our athletes to push themselves to break records in front of crowds of billions?

They Olympics reminds everyone to:

Never, Never, Never Give Up. (winston churchill)

#1634042Post 2 of 33

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Poor people are able to come out of poverty with sufficient motivation and drive. 2 generations ago, my entire family from my father's and mother's side were very very poor. They didn't depend on the government to feed them or the generosity of richer people to make end's meet.

If you have made the money and can spend it, do so, don't be a lethargic claimant of your self-deserving ideology to claim your way through life. I'm more of a dem than a rep but I'm not one for giving away freebies.

Good thread though Florida, like the Nasa thread, I'm not against the Olympics either. If a country spends X billion dollars for the games, they will hopefully (likely?) earn back X + 1 from sales of tickets, tourism (which includes restaurants, hotels, sight seeing, local transportation), and overall boost to the local economy thanks to the massive volume of visitors to the country.

#1634084Post 3 of 33

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The olympics gives people hope & pride.

Maybe diverting all the research/funding and proceeds from arms sales etc. into uniting/feeding the world would be a good idea.

#1634093Post 4 of 33

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title fail>thread fail

#1634095Post 5 of 33

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if u have starved before i dont think you were gonna compare it to something like the olympics, its not a joke and its not debatable..

well i guess its understood coming from a guy that has a gold medal in starting threads about favorite condiments and foods

#1634099Post 6 of 33

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awww c'mon trick, just cause didi and juicer aren't in this thread means you're upset? I've fasted, I've posted in this thread, what is it about the thread that upsets you?

#1634100Post 7 of 33

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[QUOTE=trick12;1054411]if u have starved before i dont think you were gonna compare it to something like the olympics, its not a joke and its not debatable..

well i guess its understood coming from a guy that has a gold medal in starting threads about favorite condiments and foods[/QUOTE] Yeah, making starvation the subject of jokes isn't my idea of humour either, but in FO's defence he is only following the leader this time.

#1634101Post 8 of 33

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[QUOTE=trick12;1054411]if u have starved before i dont think you were gonna compare it to something like the olympics, its not a joke and its not debatable.. [/QUOTE]

kind of agree with this.. but more link in a deeper discussion, you can´t compare nothing with starvation.. i mean, we are a rare rare specie.. we can enjoy Olympics (or whatever "comparable") KNOWING the fact that billons of people are starving out there.. weird, to say the least..

We should go back to that NASA - Olympics discussion, both means loads of money but imo the world needs them.. Is not like starvation is avoidable without them or even close, we humans have the power and the resources to make starvation history.. it´s up to us.. But somehow, deeply we don´t give a fuck

#1634102Post 9 of 33

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[QUOTE=Kamal;1054416]awww c'mon trick, just cause didi and juicer aren't in this thread means you're upset? I've fasted, I've posted in this thread, what is it about the thread that upsets you?[/QUOTE]

In my defence it's time difference :)

Fasting does not equal starvation. Remove the Vs from the title and it is subject certainly worth deeper discussion.

#1634103Post 10 of 33

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[QUOTE=Kamal;1054416]awww c'mon trick, just cause didi and juicer aren't in this thread means you're upset? I've fasted, I've posted in this thread, what is it about the thread that upsets you?[/QUOTE]

not sure realyy what u mean? and im not upset bai

i just think that starvation is not a subject to compare to the olympics.

#1634104Post 11 of 33

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And one more thing.. I think we actually do lots of things to turn this place on a better place , but checking out our resources and knowledge, we are doing the average shot imo

#1634107Post 12 of 33

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[QUOTE=trick12;1054420]not sure realyy what u mean? and im not upset bai

i just think that starvation is not a subject to compare to the olympics.[/QUOTE]

He's playing the man again not the ball.

#1634110Post 13 of 33

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i do see your point in the nasa/olympics which is fine like Achtung said, both are for people to cheer. and i personally have cheered in the olympics and enjoying it. i def wont go talk about comparing it to people starving, even if we are talking about money spending wise we can say would we rather have the olympics or use the money to assist the country in depression...

but to stretch our discussion to starving people, i mean these people dont even know we exist since they have no internet and computers and hd tv's to watch the olympic and then come compare it to them, im actually glad they dont have access to such ridiculousness.

i have seen starving people, i have been around people that work all day just to eat a small plate of beans with one loaf of bread for a family of 7...and these are the lucky ones by the way coz some cant even have that loaf of bread and theyre surprisingly satisfied and happier than people that do nothing but stuff themselves with food...

so unless u have lived their lives dont talk about them and def if you do dont compare to olympics which is mainly a game, coz theyre not playing. and when u see the next starved person tell him i was debating you or the olympics.

and fasting??? that has nothing to do with starving, i have been fasting for 22 days just to feel for these people and its nothing like them, at least i find a meal to eat at sunset and im thankful for it...and its my choice, while they dont have a choice and are not doing it to be fit.

#1634111Post 14 of 33

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[QUOTE=DIDI;1054424]He's playing the man again not the ball.[/QUOTE]

And what are you trying to play didster?

#1634112Post 15 of 33

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[QUOTE=trick12;1054420]not sure realyy what u mean? and im not upset bai

i just think that starvation is not a subject to compare to the olympics.[/QUOTE]

Bossi I relate, starvation isnt a topic to be played or compared with, but what is the reason to bring it into an unrelated topic such as space exploration. Seriously? If there's a point to be made, do it through actions, why drag it into an online EDM forum in a place it doesn't belong. I don't say that crudely, but realistically.

#1634114Post 16 of 33

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did u see me bring starvation to the nasa thread?! did u see me say anything but my opinion about meaningful science however you want to define that? and most of all did you see me start a thread about it on an EDM website titled olympics vs starvation?

and cmon man, are we really just and EDM forum?

#1634115Post 17 of 33

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[QUOTE=Kamal;1054429] If there's a point to be made, do it through actions, why drag it into an online EDM forum in a place it doesn't belong. I don't say that crudely, but realistically.[/QUOTE]

Sounds pretty crude to me, you really don´t know what that person is actually doing about it, with actions.. And the fact he is pointing that out into this EDM forum, imo is a small way to do something..

That being said, think i can understand what Florida is trying to say.. defo starvation is not the best pick, but NASA and space exploration is.. That would be fair to discuss

#1634116Post 18 of 33

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[QUOTE=Kamal;1054428]And what are you trying to play didster?[/QUOTE] I'm not playing, I'm serious. This forum has endless silly, inappropriate threads, posts etc , reflects human life really. But the other thread was NEVER about any VS . This thread we are in now has the potential to be a serious discussion on a pretty worthy subject.[ if we take out the VS :) ] Especially as we have people who certainly know a lot more than I do, I am not assuming anything about anyone else's personal experience, about the subject matter. So why don't we let it.

Re the olympics, I'm a bit ambivalent , I find the money spent pretty shocking, and I'm guessing the homeless got moved on in london the way they did here. But I have found myself checking the medal tally and feeling just a tad proud when we win something. I do think they can be inspirational and we do need that. It can push us to do better in all areas. I'm enough of an idealist to hope AchtungBaby! isn't right with the "we don't give a fuck" and unfortunately enough of a realist to know he just might be. :(

#1634121Post 19 of 33

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they wouldn't be starving if they would move to where the food is.

#1634143Post 20 of 33

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[QUOTE=AchtungBaby!;1054435]Sounds pretty crude to me, you really don´t know what that person is actually doing about it, with actions.. And the fact he is pointing that out into this EDM forum, imo is a small way to do something..

That being said, think i can understand what Florida is trying to say.. defo starvation is not the best pick, but NASA and space exploration is.. That would be fair to discuss[/QUOTE]

To each his own. You are entitled to have a sense of comparative justification in what you feel is worthy of being spent on and what not. But, the way I see it, if a person IS actually doing something of worth, this would entail a massive degree of selflessness in character. And selfless people don't impose what they do on others through ridiculous discussions.

If in FACT something meaningful is being done and people truly believe in the cause to eradicate hunger, then why not share it and motivate people so more can be done. Start a thread SPECIFICALLY for the cause to initiate a movement for the greater good. Don't drop remarks in unrelated threads without any fact to back it up, but merely to "hint" at what you're supposedly claiming that you do. That is sheer nonsense.

[QUOTE=DIDI;1054436]I'm not playing, I'm serious. This forum has endless silly, inappropriate threads, posts etc , reflects human life really. But the other thread was NEVER about any VS . This thread we are in now has the potential to be a serious discussion on a pretty worthy subject.[ if we take out the VS :) ] Especially as we have people who certainly know a lot more than I do, I am not assuming anything about anyone else's personal experience, about the subject matter. So why don't we let it.

Re the olympics, I'm a bit ambivalent , I find the money spent pretty shocking, and I'm guessing the homeless got moved on in london the way they did here. But I have found myself checking the medal tally and feeling just a tad proud when we win something. I do think they can be inspirational and we do need that. It can push us to do better in all areas. I'm enough of an idealist to hope AchtungBaby! isn't right with the "we don't give a fuck" and unfortunately enough of a realist to know he just might be. :([/QUOTE]

Congratulations, you won the last word award :vuvu:

#1634161Post 21 of 33

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#1634228Post 22 of 33

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#1634448Post 23 of 33

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;1054441]they wouldn't be starving if they would move to where the food is.[/QUOTE]

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:RockOn:

#1634462Post 24 of 33

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;1054441]they wouldn't be starving if they would move to where the food is.[/QUOTE]

many try and fail because they are poorly educated and also have ties to the lands where they live i.e. family.

a bit or a radical way of looking at things here ( not meant to be offensive ) but if half of them were sensible enough to stop bringing new children into the world then the problem wouldn't be quite as bad, i certainly wouldn't want any or my children ( all none of them ) to be brought into a world where there wasn't even a sustainable food supply to keep them alive.

#1634489Post 25 of 33

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^^Jeez, you want them to be celibate as well ??

It's a basic human instinct to reproduce, even if it does make no sense at all. The instinct is probably stronger when life is threatened. And lets face it, if you look at bringing up kids the amount of joy we get out of it just doesn't really make sense if you look at it objectively. :)

#1634506Post 26 of 33

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;1054441]they wouldn't be starving if they would move to where the food is.[/QUOTE]

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#1634507Post 27 of 33

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[QUOTE=88Mariner;1054441]they wouldn't be starving if they would move to where the food is.[/QUOTE]

Thought this was a bad bad joke.. Pls everyone stop answering that.. Thank you all

#1634546Post 28 of 33

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[QUOTE=DIDI;1054974]^^Jeez, you want them to be celibate as well ??

It's a basic human instinct to reproduce, even if it does make no sense at all. The instinct is probably stronger when life is threatened. And lets face it, if you look at bringing up kids the amount of joy we get out of it just doesn't really make sense if you look at it objectively. :)[/QUOTE]

i didn't say that di although it may have looked like it... i agree is a basic human instinct to reproduce but many people are fathering 3 and 4 to different people in some places around the world probably because all they can think of doing to entertain themselves is shag like rabbits.... its a really big problem

#1634552Post 29 of 33

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I should have put a smile at the end of that question. :)

But seriously celibacy is their only choice because the people we are talking about have very little access to contraception and the catholic church is trying very hard to keep it that way.

#1634554Post 30 of 33

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[QUOTE=DIDI;1055055]I should have put a smile at the end of that question. :)

But seriously celibacy is their only choice because the people we are talking about have very little access to contraception and the catholic church is trying very hard to keep it that way.[/QUOTE]

of course they are... funerals and also christenings and anything else that needs a church brings people ( and potentially money ) to their doorstep, the catholic church is the most corrupt thing we will ever see in our lives

#1634559Post 31 of 33

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^ I don't know bud - my government is the most corrupt thing I have ever seen in my life

#1634561Post 32 of 33

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[QUOTE=nick007;1055063]^ I don't know bud - my government is the most corrupt thing I have ever seen in my life[/QUOTE]

the catholic church far out weighs the power of any government in any country in the world

#1634860Post 33 of 33

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Yo Slinky, be reading the topic, its Olympics vs. Starvation, not "why I entered the Olympics".

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