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2 x 1200

18 durable postsStarted 2012-07-15Latest 2012-07-18
#120617Post 1 of 18

[SIZE=2]A pair of very old 1200s spent too long in my loft, unused. I decided it was time to give them the once over and here are some pics of the process.[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2]The one shown below was the better of the two, the other had the arm broken when my mate Jim trod on it [/SIZE]:what [B][SIZE=2] [IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/1.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE][/B]

Base removed, arm assembly removed, this is what it looks like underneath [B][SIZE=2][URL="http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/1.jpg"][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/2.jpg[/IMG] [/URL][/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2][URL="http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/1.jpg"] [/URL] Pitch slider pcb and start/stop pcb removed. Platter removed, top view[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/3.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2] Under the dust cover [/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/4.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2]Motor pcb removed, supply and regulator pcb removed.[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][U][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/5.jpg[/IMG]

[/U][/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2] Close ups showing just how worn the finish on the decks was. In fairness though, they're very old and have had some serious stick[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2][U][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/6.jpg[/IMG]

[/U][/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][U][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/7.jpg[/IMG]

[/U][/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][U][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/8.jpg[/IMG] [/U][/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2] 2 coats of etching primer and they looked like this[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/9.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/10.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE][/B]

Not a very clear pic but this is the final finish [B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/11.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=2] The broken arm, disassembled [/SIZE][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/12.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/13.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/14.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2] The wiring in one of the arms had soldered joints which had been taped up - nice[/SIZE]:shock: [B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/15.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2] LITZ tonearm cable is what i used to rewire the arms[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/16.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/17.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2] The base of the arms, disassembled, cleaned and repainted[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/18.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/19.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/20.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/21.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/22.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE][/B]

[B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/23.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/24.jpg[/IMG] [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2]

Spirit washing the motor pcb[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/25.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2] refitted motor pcb[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/26.jpg[/IMG] [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2] changing the LEDs (none were working) to ice white[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/28.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2]Powered up [/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/27.jpg[/IMG]

[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2] Arm assembly refitted[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/29.jpg[/IMG] [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2]

Bases and feet put back together[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/30.jpg[/IMG] [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2] And by george, it only fucking works [/SIZE]:lol: [B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/31.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=2]

[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2]Apart from the cosmetics and thorough cleaning, I repaired the anti skate on one of the arms which wasn't functioning at all. Changed the configuration of the grounding so i no longer have to ground through the mixer. Zeroed the pitches and recalibrated them so the 2 decks are perfectly matched. The pitches were miles out before. Also changed the range from +-8% to +-6% so slightly finer adjustment now which suits me. Thinking of maybe adding a pitch range adjustment to the front of the decks but that's a project for the future.[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B]

#1630860Post 2 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

fookin electronic genius bob is

#1630861Post 3 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

[QUOTE=bobjuice;1050179][SIZE=2]A pair of very old 1200s spent too long in my loft, unused. I decided it was time to give them the once over and here are some pics of the process.[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2]The one shown below was the better of the two, the other had the arm broken when my mate Jim trod on it [/SIZE]:what [B][SIZE=2] [IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/1.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE][/B]

[B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2] Arm assembly refitted[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2]

Bases and feet put back together[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/30.jpg[/IMG] [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2] And by george, it only fucking works [/SIZE]:lol: [B][SIZE=2][IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/31.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=2]

[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2]Apart from the cosmetics and thorough cleaning, I repaired the anti skate on one of the arms which wasn't functioning at all. Changed the configuration of the grounding so i no longer have to ground through the mixer. Zeroed the pitches and recalibrated them so the 2 decks are perfectly matched. The pitches were miles out before. Also changed the range from +-8% to +-6% so slightly finer adjustment now which suits me. Thinking of maybe adding a pitch range adjustment to the front of the decks but that's a project for the future.[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/B][/QUOTE]

What a fine restoration project indeed!

#1630864Post 4 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

Cheers. The inspiration for the colour scheme came from here jejeej

[IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rnT0uyDKe8U/TjbZsvDtNRI/AAAAAAAAA9g/uheDddEzO58/s1600/guinness_drafts-10268.jpg[/IMG]

#1630867Post 5 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

Wow, good work dude .....

Now, you have a new job, "restorer of antiques". :lol:

#1630870Post 6 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

We all have our individual talents, and I so wish that I had the talent to do something like this.Awesome job recreating this!

#1630883Post 7 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

nice work!!!!!! congrats :D

#1630887Post 8 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

Kind of curious how many hours it took in total, roughly? Obviously a fun project and well worth the time spent. Also out of curiosity, what year were these 1200's originally made?

#1630900Post 9 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

I've no idea how long they took florida as it was done in bits and pieces whenever i had time, not one big hit if you get me. Also, there was no rush to complete the job at all, no pressure, it was a labour of love i guess . They feel fucking great now i have to say but i don't think that's down to my efforts, it's down to the quality of the original design and the way they are built.

As for their age, i think they're 1987 but may be wrong?? They have a lot of history, not all of which i can post in a public forum haha

#1630903Post 10 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

Well done :)

#1630908Post 11 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

[QUOTE=bobjuice;1050221]I've no idea how long they took florida as it was done in bits and pieces whenever i had time, not one big hit if you get me. Also, there was no rush to complete the job at all, no pressure, it was a labour of love i guess . They feel fucking great now i have to say but i don't think that's down to my efforts, it's down to the quality of the original design and the way they are built.

As for their age, i think they're 1987 but may be wrong?? They have a lot of history, not all of which i can post in a public forum haha[/QUOTE] You are just being modest there, it's a fabulous job!! You really had to know what you were doing. !! :D Congratulations !!

You wouldn't like to pop over here to refoam my 901s would you ? :lol:

#1630942Post 12 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

a job well done!!

i personally preferred the aged look at the begininng!

[IMG]http://www.orangesunshine.nl/1200pic/6.jpg[/IMG]

#1630955Post 13 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

attn: bobjuice

[ATTACH=CONFIG]9191[/ATTACH]

#1631113Post 14 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

[QUOTE=DIDI;1050230]You wouldn't like to pop over here to refoam my 901s would you ? :lol:[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://chud.com/articles/content_images/285/4986448_tml.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=DIDI;1050230]You are just being modest there, it's a fabulous job!! [/QUOTE]

Thanks Di, i appreciate you saying i did a good job. But i'm not being modest at all, it's the build of the 1200 that enables it to be brought back to life after such a long time. A cheaply made belt drive deck in 20 yrs time just wouldn't be worth the effort.

#1631124Post 15 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

True, when I restore furniture if it was well made in the first place it's always easier, but I still think I am a shit hot furniture restorer. :lol: Plus I have seen so many pieces of furniture that have been wrecked by a "restorer". I have a 150 year old cedar chest of draws here right now, abused beyond belief, drawer runners filled with construction adhesive and laminated :shock: and yet it still stands straight and solid and hasn't a single split anywhere, even the solid cedar draws. Beautifully made. You still have to have the knowledge and skills .

Just accept that you deserve compliments for this ;)

#1631127Post 16 of 18

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I accept the compliments gracefully but what I'm saying is this was a 95% cosmetic job. With the pitch faders calibrated, a rub down and spot of oil on the shafts was the only real difference I made to how they play. Thaats testament to how they are made. If I could have done more I would I haave ;)

#1631180Post 17 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

how did you calibrate the pitch faders?

#1631260Post 18 of 18

Re: 2 x 1200

damn Bob, you are truely a bad ass! Mine are old too, but not that old!.. I think I need to re-calibrate the pitching too.. its not far off tho.. just a tad. Nice work!

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