geeez! what's your problem? of course, i asked first! and yes, if all goes good, i'll be getting a direct signal from JZ's mixer that will end up on my laptop.

as for Sasha - i'll have to say he never really impressed me. i'll be there strictly for JZ.

With all the live mixes floating around out there, u seem dead set on getting a mint condition copy of a set you haven't even heard, coming and going in and out of the club, first not knowing if there are metal detectors, then calling and no cameras allowed, then all of the sudden you are in the offices on the 4th floor, getting approval and info from a booking agent on what equiptment to use to tap in directly, with, correct me if I am wrong, no prior permission from the DJ himself.

Mainly I find it highly upsetting that you seem to have no enthusiasm about the night itself or anything about the music specifically. And I'm gonna speak for most music lovers now, if an artist doesn't "do it" for you or isn't your style, then you aren't into them... it has nothing to do with their failure to "impress" you. P-diddy impresses me, but I'm stumped as to how he got this far with that much. Love or hate him, Sasha has some "impressive" groundbreaking originality under his belt. JZ rocks too, in his own original way as well, I like it. I might be wrong, but I would put money down that you tend to "exaggerate" in trying to "wow" people and telling them what "you think" will "impress" them. Each post got grander and in no realistic sort of time frame, staten island is a fuckin hike kiddo.

[quote=TomTom]Every recording method besides plugging your record medium into the soundboard system sucks anyway. Not worth recording a gig if you have no access to the mixer IMO.[/quote]

soo true...all your gonna hear is low ass bass and really high highs and nothing in between........waste of time and effort.. :roll:

Right-o... just while we're on the topic, let's remind ourselves just why James Zabiela is so worth catching live!

He just sent me this link. 10 tracks in 5 minutes. Hoooooooooooooooly shit!

[url]http://homepage.mac.com/jameszabiela/robotsandrave/FileSharing18.html[/url]

Cheers James. :)

[quote=miketpoto]With all the live mixes floating around out there, u seem dead set on getting a mint condition copy of a set you haven't even heard, coming and going in and out of the club, first not knowing if there are metal detectors, then calling and no cameras allowed, then all of the sudden you are in the offices on the 4th floor, getting approval and info from a booking agent on what equiptment to use to tap in directly, with, correct me if I am wrong, no prior permission from the DJ himself.

Mainly I find it highly upsetting that you seem to have no enthusiasm about the night itself or anything about the music specifically. And I'm gonna speak for most music lovers now, if an artist doesn't "do it" for you or isn't your style, then you aren't into them... it has nothing to do with their failure to "impress" you. P-diddy impresses me, but I'm stumped as to how he got this far with that much. Love or hate him, Sasha has some "impressive" groundbreaking originality under his belt. JZ rocks too, in his own original way as well, I like it. I might be wrong, but I would put money down that you tend to "exaggerate" in trying to "wow" people and telling them what "you think" will "impress" them. Each post got grander and in no realistic sort of time frame, staten island is a fuckin hike kiddo.[/quote]

can't believe i'm actually reading this... you're calling BULLSHIT on all of my posts???

o.k. i'm gonna clear up a few things for you, which will also serve as a nice introduction of myself to everyone on the board, though i admit it's a bit late for that.

i'm 24. my clubbing days are over, since 3 years ago. just like it was yesterday, i remember popping my last couple of pills at Sound Factory on NYE 2001. this might seem a little too personal of a memory, but maybe my sharing it will do you some good in the long run... coming back from the club in the morning, i looked around the limo and found my friends (all of whom took a few hits more than myself, with my best friend Mike setting his personal record at 10 pills a night) looking quite miserable after MDMA effects had worn off. by then i was feeling pretty stable myself and had this kind of a sober perspective on things, and i realized that for the past two years of tripping on ecstasy every weekend our actual lives have become nothing but dull, emotionally empty existances. i'll spare you the lecture on drug abuse, but right then and there i announced to everyone i was going to quit the E-routine. haven't been to a club since!

about my taste for music... i used to like everything! starting with Junior Vasquez and Danny Tenaglia to psychodelic trance and hip-hop. i don't know if you know about long-time withdrawal effects from drugs(and it wasn't just ecstasy) but in the next year or so i've lost interest to everything mainstream, stumbled onto the good old rock classics like Zeppelin and Beatles, and then GU series caught my eye(ear). then NuBreed came out and i was blown away! Satoshi Tomiie was one of my favorites for a while... up until i heard JZ's Four promo! something clicked and i couldn't get enough of his "artwork". for some time now i've been collecting his livesets, and have all but one, ever recorded and circulating HD's. so simply put i'm a huge huge fan of the guy, and wouldn't miss this opportunity for nothing... one thing that didn't change is my admiration of "The Prodigy"'s Liam Howlett since 1994.

why am i not enthusiastic about the night? that's not hard to answer... i got two tickets, but the girl had to work. i'm going alone. since i set out to do this recording thing - i see it as hard work, rather than good time.

now, i never said i got approval/permission from anyone to record tomorrow's set. my exact words were "if all goes good", meaning all i can do is hope the guys at Crobar let me go through with this. as for JZ - he [b]knows[/b] i'll be there, but i haven't spoken to him directly, which i will at the club and that'll decide the outcome. you say i exaggerate, while i all i've been doing is asking for [b]your[/b] help figuring out what i'll have to deal with if things don't go as planned. and stop picking on the word "impressed"! it just means i don't like Sasha's music all that much, you read into things too much. and finally, the last thing i'm trying to accomplish is impress anyone on this board. just setting the record straight...

I stand corrected for the most part, and I'll own up to that and respect your personal reasons for not making a night of it. I will put in, for your info or hopefully benefit, that I too did the mdmaweekend for several years, among other things, I am 27, and "clubbing" and rolling can peacefully not mix with eachther with remarkable results. You can remember in detail why the night was so great, and conciously enjoy it to boot. (getting messy is fun too, but it hurts a lot more nowadays)

I do hope you can understand that casually asking about how to sneak a MD into a club, and in a few hours having access and very specific hardware with no back story is a bit of a red flag so to speak. I will stand by my beef with using the word impressed, if for no other reason than it's usage in your earlier post having a negative tone, intentional or not. I totally read into things a lot, too far at some points, but most of the time when I don't go with my gut or instincts I end up wishing I had (or sometimes regretting it). Anyway, words are extremely powerful in an online forum, lacking in voice inflections and facial expressions, choosing how things are said can have a much larger impact/ripple effect than ever intended.

So, sorry, sorry too that you aren't able to enjoy a club at this point in life (I understand your reasons though), and going to a club alone can be the most perfect way to realize or be reminded of the power of the music, and to fuckin DANCE...

Believe it or not, I know several people who are textbook examples of what I was pretty sure of you being earlier. They, however, are severely resistant to acknowledging any sort of regret or self-doubt.... past present or future. Your reasons and explanation legitimately set you apart from those of whom I speak.

I guess there are just two kinds of people in this world.... My kind of people, and assholes..

                - Michael

          Thank you BTW, for surprising me, in a very nicely refreshing way, even though we dont agree on the power of impress.

[quote=TomTom]Every recording method besides plugging your record medium into the soundboard system sucks anyway. Not worth recording a gig if you have no access to the mixer IMO.[/quote]

...and a perfect example of this is the Delta Heavy show digs aired on kiss 100 a couple years ago. remember....it sounded like complete trash. this is what your recording will sound like. even worse.

ok, Michael, thanks for understanding. hope you won't snap at me again cause i'm planning to use impress in this very post! and if you were there yesterday, i think you'd agree with my view of this...

anywho... i loved how the night turned out! first of all, they were expecting us(i took a firend with me) at the entrance and let us in WITHOUT STANDING IN LINE, WITHOUT TICKETS(which we both had), NEVER ASKED FOR ID, and they DIDN'T SEARCH US! i was paralized(now that's a verb with some power =P) by the reception and was even thinking about going back out and selling the tickets outside... never did, as i didn't want to lose any time, expecting to start setting up equipment right away... weird, but there was like another 4 guys with laptop cases doing the same exact thing, and they let us all in together.

it was a great start, but unfortunately, that's where it had to end. in a few minutes i found the guy i spoke to earlier. he checked his text messages for me and said no authorizations have been given to him by either Sasha or JZ, and that he was sorry... he did give me a drink ticket though!

now, let's move on to the music part... whoever was spinning up untill 1:00 AM was just terrible, and let's leave it at that. then Sasha came on... i decided to give him a chance and got out in the middle of the dancefloor, trying to enjoy the performance really hard. surrounded by a lot of Asian people, most of whom had their eyes closed and just waving and stuff, i couldn't help it - it got boring fast. i have not seen Sasha live before, but i heard a few of his livesets and i've gotta admit: his track selection yesterday was great, but that's about it. so as for first [b]impress[/b]ions - i'd have to say he left none. this Ableton Live stuff is really nothing special, or at least not my type of a mix...

Eric, the DJ booking guy, told me JZ will start at 2:30. i guess Sasha decided to go at it for a while longer, hoping to achieve [u]some[/u] kind of exciment in the crowd, so James didn't start till 3:00...

I DON'T WANT TO SAY A THING ABOUT HIS PART, BECAUSE WORDS COULDN'T DESCRIBE IT! plus, i'll have hordes of Sasha fans lighting up flames over here... you just had to be there. for 2 hours the crowd wouldn't stop cheering and jumping, and me and my friend could barely move afterwards. then Sasha came back at 5:00 and they did a quick back-to-back(like 5 minutes). JZ said "Hey" into the mic, added some delays and looped the sample, and it was sounding great...

finally, i got to talk to James! just as i thought, Sasha was absolutely against any kind of recording setup by anyone, so at least i knew NOBODY got to record anything. oh well, we shook hands and he signed my shirt, which i'll post a picture of later. next time he is around, without Sasha, i'm getting the set recorded!

oh, and the microphone experiment. i got my friend to stand in the middle the whole time and everything seemed fine... untill we got back to the car and checked out the result. suffice it to say that everything that had bass(95% in Zabiela's case) was sort of "not there". i'm going back to B&H and returning the POS mic they sold me. should've used a dynamic stage one, but who knew... btw, a few beers and good music felt a lot better than tripping balls and floating away to any beat... now i wish like hell i lived in Miami!

[quote=th33f]now i wish like hell i lived in Miami![/quote] Thanks for the review. And, you don't have to [i]live[/i] in Miami, you just have to [i]get[/i] to Miami!

[quote=skahound][quote=th33f]now i wish like hell i lived in Miami![/quote] Thanks for the review. And, you don't have to [i]live[/i] in Miami, you just have to [i]get[/i] to Miami![/quote]

that's true. unfortunately, i can't drop everything and travel a 1000 miles just for one night. but time will tell, maybe by some coincedence...

[quote=th33f] that's true. unfortunately, i can't drop everything and travel a 1000 miles just for one night. but time will tell, maybe by some coincedence...[/quote] Definitely understandable. Start saving now for next year's week of debauchery. :D

[quote=th33f] anywho... i loved how the night turned out! first of all, they were expecting us(i took a firend with me) at the entrance and let us in WITHOUT STANDING IN LINE, WITHOUT TICKETS(which we both had), NEVER ASKED FOR ID, and they DIDN'T SEARCH US! i was paralized(now that's a verb with some power =P) by the reception and was even thinking about going back out and selling the tickets outside... never did, whoever was spinning up untill 1:00 AM was just terrible, and let's leave it at that. then Sasha came on... i decided to give him a chance and got out in the middle of the dancefloor, trying to enjoy the performance really hard. surrounded by a lot of Asian people, most of whom had their eyes closed and just waving and stuff, i couldn't help it - it got boring fast. i have not seen Sasha live before, but i heard a few of his livesets and i've gotta admit: his track selection yesterday was great, but that's about it. so as for first [b]impress[/b]ions - i'd have to say he left none. this Ableton Live stuff is really nothing special, or at least not my type of a mix... [/quote]

I got in the same no questions no nuthin no prob/open bar till 10pm, everyone who got there before 10pm did apparently, it was fuckin odd... lol

Who the FUCK was the opener? he looked like the love child of sasha and pvd, and Was so horrible I can't even go into it at all... who's dick did he suck? I'll open for sasha and suck it too, but I never heard a main floor DJ there that I would say "I could have done SO much better no doubts whatsoever".

THE PEOPLE YOU SPEAK OF... THEY ARE NOT SASHA FANS...THEY ARE BRIDGE AND TUNNEL "lets go "CLUBBING"" bitches who I will briefly say I take no shit from for a split second at all anymore. They cheering you heard was mostly that of the drunken meatheads and you may have noticed the dumb bitches about the club, the ones who don't quite get the concept of their cleavage having no power of the city gay boy, so to speak.... I think at least 20 CUNTS or so blatantly rammed into me, some in groups or "Cunta Lines" in going wherever they damn well wanted to, knocking over whoever they wanted to as well. I didn't resort to violence save for tripping 2 or so after they didn't even bother to try and go around or to the side of me at all, just head on keep walking until I get where I want, THIS IS ON THE DANCEFLOOR no matter where. I had some lovely death looks and words that would serve as a do not enter sign.Drunk couples shouldn't try to tango or ballroom partner dance on a no free space floor, and this isn't rocket science. Never in any club in europe I have ever been to have I ever encountered any noteworthy lack of common courtesy like this, and many other nights before 4am in NYC. I feel defenseless to stop this, but it's making it near impossible to enjoy the music without being barrreled into increasingly, should I allow that to happen? 18+ should include an IQ test (for all ages), it's a fucking joke otherwise.

James fucking rocked, sasha was great at points, not "working it" too much, but at the end, it was shown by sasha that this was James's night, with great enthusiasm, and love... I said out loud, "wow, he really fucking loves this kid (no condescension intended), look at them." I am in great pain from dancing ALL NIGHT, 10pm to 730am, I couldn't stand still for james main set at all, who could? also, Sasha's 2nd and 3rd tracks of the first set were so beautiful I got the tears welling up immediately, surprised the fuck out of me, but there was a sample that sounded like a crowd of people yelling-slow-motion-like in harmony that slide-panned from back to the front of the dancefloor.... I won't soon forget that one.

The boys played side by side for a good 45 minutes or more towards the end, "Ruhe"" You'll know my Frequency"-"Mr-Brightside" etc

I had an amazing night overall, mostly due to some incredible people by my side both old and new. Including the gang that has been ending out sasha and sander every other week together... Just eye contact and smiles and a few instant mutual hugs... (sans e-tard syndrome)... The night wound down and finished with so many smiles, new friendships, 3 COUNTem 3 depeche mode songs played over the night, and a great fuckin.... "thank you"

             if u were there u know what I mean...

Mike Mmglobal... Your bud Patrick, and your friend visiting (forgot name), Thank you like you have no idea, for making all the grief and assholes worth every second. I haven't shared those specific wavelengths in eons, and I and excited to have some new great people to get to know.. :)

        Pictures and some vid when i get to it... :) I got a big burrito to eat, peace!

unbelievable! i left at around 5:30, after Sasha went back on, mainly because my friend was up since 6 AM, who's been a great deal of help to me, driving and working as a live mic stand. =) pity i missed that back to back part. now i'm definitely gonna take a drive to Chicago, to catch JZ's 4 hour set next week!

oh, i saw the tamborine guy... i was like "I heard about you, you're a fucking cop!". He just said he was "the tamborine guy". looking forward to the pics/vids, Mike, especially if you got any after 6 AM or so... i guess a new thread for those would be in order, i'll add to it with a pic of the autographed shirt.