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hmm one little thing i have noticed recently

21 durable postsStarted 2011-06-27Latest 2011-06-28
#102352Post 1 of 21

ok maybe this is something adam could poss look into in some ways but recently when searching google for a particular dj ( any one that comes to mind ) i,ve been noticing that since the whole DJDB thing was introduced and the names of those dj's are blocked out due to their names being links on this forum that in basic google search results mercuryserver.com comes up less and less when maybe a few years ago it was always one of the top results

i may be wrong in my assumptions though

any thoughts on this one ?

#1518722Post 2 of 21

Re: hmm one little thing i have noticed recently

btw i,m talking about having only basic info on a particular set/recording for example typing in " [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=223"]josh wink[/url] 2006 "

#1518725Post 3 of 21

Re: hmm one little thing i have noticed recently

Google Webmaster Tools says mercuryserver.com was displayed in 1.8MM search results from May 20th to today. I think you're wrong in your assumptions :)

#1518726Post 4 of 21

Re: hmm one little thing i have noticed recently

[QUOTE=picklemonkey;969429]Google Webmaster Tools says mercuryserver.com was displayed in 1.8MM search results from May 20th to today. I think you're wrong in your assumptions :)[/QUOTE]

ah ok cool, maybe i was looking into it a bit much and really hadn't considered that the savages had been mass posting on forum after forum with the same links thus pushing them a little further up in google results

was just an idea though adam, if there is nothing to worry about then i,m cool with that m8 :D

#1518727Post 5 of 21

Re: hmm one little thing i have noticed recently

but i looked @ it from another point of view though which may sound a bit weird but again its just a random idea... when ur browsing ms when ur not signed in and trying to read posts which contain dj names that are in the DJDB you obviously can't see who everyone is talking about :lol:

now say i was this person ( new to the game ) and looking for a particular set and did a search such as i suggested earlier in the thread and i got a result coming up for this site and i got.....[you have to be signed in to view this post] 2006...what do u think are the differences ( number wise ) in people u think would actually join the forum to see that piece of text compared to the people who would actually dismiss it and go looking for what they are searching for in another place where the exact match in text is openly displayed ? ( does that make sense ? )

i,m looking @ it from a point of view of getting/encouraging new members to join ms rather than just have a quick look @ the site then go somewhere else

#1518729Post 6 of 21

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;969431]but i looked @ it from another point of view though which may sound a bit weird but again its just a random idea... when ur browsing ms when ur not signed in and trying to read posts which contain dj names that are in the DJDB you obviously can't see who everyone is talking about :lol:

now say i was this person ( new to the game ) and looking for a particular set and did a search such as i suggested earlier in the thread and i got a result coming up for this site and i got.....[you have to be signed in to view this post] 2006...what do u think are the differences ( number wise ) in people u think would actually join the forum to see that piece of text compared to the people who would actually dismiss it and go looking for what they are searching for in another place where the exact match in text is openly displayed ? ( does that make sense ? )

i,m looking @ it from a point of view of getting/encouraging new members to join ms rather than just have a quick look @ the site then go somewhere else[/QUOTE]

actually disregard that as the thread titles are not hidden

again was just some random bable off the top of my head

#1518730Post 7 of 21

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but searching for the "wink subforum" gives [ms] as the top result :lol:

#1518732Post 8 of 21

Re: hmm one little thing i have noticed recently

[QUOTE=demonAfro;969434]but searching for the "wink subforum" gives [ms] as the top result :lol:[/QUOTE]

yea and probably guetta too thanks to our old m8 domi ( and thats without a sub forum ) :lol:

#1518751Post 9 of 21

Re: hmm one little thing i have noticed recently

[QUOTE=demonAfro;969434]but searching for the "wink subforum" gives [ms] as the top result :lol:[/QUOTE]

3056 pages of goodies! :p:p:lol:

#1518755Post 10 of 21

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what'll be interesting is to see how the DJ pages start ranking in a few months. Every time you type [url="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=2"]john digweed[/url] it pushes some link juice back to his profile page...would help if there was a way to auto generate meta KWs/descriptions and H1/2/3 tags for the artist pages.

#1518802Post 11 of 21

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actually there was a bit of method in the madness so to speak, i just didn't explain myself properly

ok ..... what sets out MS from most other mundane looking old boring forums is that there is a little discogs thing going on there, we have a huge culture of lurkers on the net ( that's fact ) but there is a potential for new members within that field, the thinking behind what i said last night was to highlight what MS has to offer what no other forum has by somehow ( if possible ) writing a little piece of code that sets a ms DJDB link viewable for these potential new members basically selling the whole idea but at the same time still hiding the actual download link for those sets...

if these links were click-able to non members it not only sells the artist page but also sells what ms has to offer for that particular artist and could potentially draw new members to the site... as of now and i,m looking @ it from a lurkers point of view u come on and read some of the posts right now and were all talking about djs/artists of who are already in the DJDB and if ur not signed in then there really is no way of telling who is being talked about by the members of the site already... its kind of off putting for people who don't know what ms is all about as they really can't get a grasp on what's being said/discussed and the likely hood is those potential newbies will just go to somewhere where they can lurk happily ( does this make sense ? ) :what

#1518810Post 12 of 21

Re: hmm one little thing i have noticed recently

One of the reasons we decided to hide the links from guests were complaints from members because they could not get download slots easily enough thanks of all the silently leeching not registered users.

#1518812Post 13 of 21

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[QUOTE=TomTom;969544]One of the reasons we decided to hide the links from guests were complaints from members because they could not get download slots easily enough thanks of all the silently leeching not registered users.[/QUOTE]

tom i,m not talking about the actual download links ( i.s. filesonic/medifire/megaupload/ul etc etc ) i,m talking about making the DJDB links view able e.g. [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=223"]josh wink[/URL], [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=2"]john digweed[/URL], [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=5"]sasha[/URL] etc which are blocked out when ur not signed in

ok heres an example of what i mean, take the following jibberish small sentence

" [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=5"]sasha[/URL] took [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=2"]john digweed[/URL] hand and ran down the josh wink set while [URL="http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=626"]david guetta[/URL] and tiesto bummed each other in the rainbow tent AGAIN " :lol:

now log out and look @ that sentence, my point is that this could be exactly the info a certain person is looking for but of course they wont be able to read it if they are not signed in or don't have an account so they are likely to look somewhere else for that info

its just a random idea but can u understand where i,m coming from

p.s. just to be perfectly clear here i,m not talking about actual links to the sets themselves

#1518813Post 14 of 21

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LMAO just realised tiesto hasn't been put in the DJDB

#1518819Post 15 of 21

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^^^not really [URL]http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/djdb.php?id=557[/URL]

Now you can finally subscribe to him. :p

The DJDB only works as it is meant to work if you are registered here and have DJDB bookmarks for your favourite producers and DJs. Dunno if you ever browsed [ms] without beeing logged in with your account. Adam has put this on the front page especially for visitors explaining the basic idea of the DJ database and what it can do for you followed by a link encouraging people to sign up.

[img]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5736/unbenanntkpv.jpg[/img]

#1518824Post 16 of 21

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I get what Dom means -- the artist names are getting removed completely from the threads so scrapers will never pick them up. Maybe for those internal links they could be unobscured or just point to a signup page tailored to the DJDB, but either way keep the dj names visible?

#1518834Post 17 of 21

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[QUOTE=demonAfro;969564]I get what Dom means -- the artist names are getting removed completely from the threads so scrapers will never pick them up. Maybe for those internal links they could be unobscured or just point to a signup page tailored to the DJDB, but either way keep the dj names visible?[/QUOTE]

^this

#1518835Post 18 of 21

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Good catch, I just added all internal mercuryserver.com links to the safe list :)

#1518836Post 19 of 21

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lol adam i wasn't trying to make ur job harder lol... it was just a random idea

#1518837Post 20 of 21

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[QUOTE=thebanned1;969575]^this[/QUOTE]

lol..sry seems my reading inbetween line skills are weak this week hence my answers were a bit off the line. :lol:

#1518838Post 21 of 21

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[QUOTE=TomTom;969579]lol..sry seems my reading inbetween line skills are weak this week hence my answers were a bit off the line. :lol:[/QUOTE]

yea and i know why :lol:

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