[url]http://www.apple.com/hotnews/[/url]

Guess I'll be waiting a bit more before picking up that new laptop...

:(

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blame iphone

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glad to hear, I couldn't afford the sucker until Christmas anyways :lol:

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apple is as lame as microsoft.

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so what OS are you using right now ?

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[quote=Kamal;474519]so what OS are you using right now ?[/quote]

preinstalled windows vista ultimate. I do have a mac but my girlfriend uses it.

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would be smart if he answered linux :)

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[quote=Corven;474522]would be smart if he answered linux :)[/quote]

i'm a regular computer user not a geek.

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what a piss poor excuse IMO.

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[quote=apollo_1444;474494]apple is as lame as microsoft.[/quote]

[quote=apollo_1444;474534]i'm a regular computer user not a geek.[/quote]

so by your own admission, that opinion is worthless ?

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[quote=Kamal;474911]so by your own admission, that opinion is worthless ?[/quote]

so you are saying that you need to be a nerd and also a linux user to make an opinion?

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[QUOTE=apollo_1444;474951]so you are saying that you need to be a nerd and also a linux user to make an opinion?[/QUOTE]

or just not contradict yourself :?:

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[quote=apollo_1444;474951]so you are saying that you need to be a nerd and also a linux user to make an opinion?[/quote]

No, I am not saying you need to be a nerd to have an opinion, but you need to have at least a basis of an opinion rather than just saying Macs / Windows suck.

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[quote=Kamal;475197]No, I am not saying you need to be a nerd to have an opinion, but you need to have at least a basis of an opinion rather than just saying Macs / Windows suck.[/quote]

mac is lame because they've lied to their customers, they've lied to magazines about benchmarks and performance and they keep claiming their OS is nearly perfect when we all know it isn't, they force you to install itunes when all you want is just quicktime and guess what THEY DELAYED LEOPARD.

... and microsoft has being lame since 92 when i got a compaq presario with windows 3.11 in it. the problems have never stopped since then. but overall i'm a pc user because i like many programs that aren't avaliable on mac os so thats it.

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[quote=apollo_1444;475199]mac is lame because they've lied to their customers, they've lied to magazines about benchmarks and performance and they keep claiming their OS is nearly perfect when we all know it isn't, they force you to install itunes when all you want is just quicktime and guess what THEY DELAYED LEOPARD.

... and microsoft has being lame since 92 when i got a compaq presario with windows 3.11 in it. the problems have never stopped since then. but overall i'm a pc user because i like many programs that aren't avaliable on mac os so thats it.[/quote]

Regarding your statement that Macs aren't "perfect", well nothing in this world is mate, but OS10 being built on Linux is WAYYYY more perfect than any other PC based OS you'd get especially being backed by a MAJOR corporation (in comparison to the freebie releases of the Open Source community). And delaying Leopard doesn't make a Mac suck :lol:. If that was the case, Vista would be perfect cause they ended up releasing it way earlier than the "delayed" estimates they promised the world and then ended up shaving the head of the OS just to release it to satisfy customers.

As for Microsoft, yes, they are terrible I'll give you that. But its what we all use and we all have our love hate relation with Microsoft's shitty product, maybe moving to a Mac would be wiser eh ;)

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[QUOTE=Kamal;475220] As for Microsoft, yes, they are terrible I'll give you that. But its what we all use and we all have our love hate relation with Microsoft's shitty product, maybe moving to a Mac would be wiser eh ;)[/QUOTE]

Just recently began my first foray into the world of Vista, and I have to say, I'm still eagerly awaiting Leopard's release so I can pick up a MB or MBP. For the resources it demands, Vista is pretty underwhelming.

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That fucking blows. Why would they delay Leopard for the iPhone? What happened to the already established user-base for the Mac OS, vs the iPhone? Get their priorities sorted!

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[quote=toasty;475271]Just recently began my first foray into the world of Vista, and I have to say, I'm still eagerly awaiting Leopard's release so I can pick up a MB or MBP. For the resources it demands, Vista is pretty underwhelming.[/quote]

are you running it on a single core machine ? Vista has been designed to abuse dual core boxes with plenty of Ram. So I'm pretty sure you'll see some sort of a benefit from beefier hardware (which is stupid because you'd probably see even better performance from the same hardware if you put a diff OS on it - Microsoft and its glorious achievement in delivering an OS full of eye candy)

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[QUOTE=Kamal;475337]are you running it on a single core machine ? Vista has been designed to abuse dual core boxes with plenty of Ram. So I'm pretty sure you'll see some sort of a benefit from beefier hardware (which is stupid because you'd probably see even better performance from the same hardware if you put a diff OS on it - Microsoft and its glorious achievement in delivering an OS full of eye candy)[/QUOTE]

No, it's an Athlon 64 X2 dual-core 4800+ w/ 2 GB of RAM. Problem isn't performance, though, it's the fact that I can't seem to get my peripherals to work. Haven't had a chance to go on and get update my drivers and whatnot, though, so I'm sure that will address the problem. Just a bummer to have to deal with with you're excited about picking up a new box...

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I got my TV tuner card few weeks ago and while it works BRILLIANTLY, my 3.2 ghz P4 has become outdated for Vista (can you believe that).

So I'm actually gonna pick up a system from circuit city with the identical specs. Since its an HP and comes preloaded with vista, I'm thinking it'll be working out of the box.

Is your's branded or did you build it ? Also what peripherals do you not have working right now ?

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[QUOTE=Kamal;475381] Is your's branded or did you build it ? Also what peripherals do you not have working right now ?[/QUOTE]

It's an HP a6030n, and I'm not able to get my wireless keyboard and mouse working.

I'm also having issues with my USB wireless network adapter, but I wasn't delighted with the way that thing worked on my old system, so I think I'm just going to junk it and get a new one. Honestly, as I was dicking around with it last night, I noticed it was a little warped, so I'm going to give Vista a pass on that one.

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some quick photoz

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more here

[url]http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopard9a410/index.html[/url]

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Vista=DirectX10, Vista=Awesome PC games, Mac=Not so much

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[QUOTE=srbbnd;475498]Vista=DirectX10, Vista=Awesome PC games, Mac=Not so much[/QUOTE]

Mac=Parallels or Bootcamp, PC=Not so much

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seems fair..i'm a pc user and i'll never switch.

i love hijacking threads :)

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[quote=Caley Martin;475579]Mac=Parallels or Bootcamp[/quote]

My point exactly...why even get a Mac to begin with.

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^^for one thing, versatility. You can run Windows on a Mac, but you can't run OS X on a PC. Use OS X when you want to, Windows when you have to.

Moreover, though, I've used them both extensively over the years and for me, it's no contest -- Macs leave Windows-based computers in the dust. Now that I can actually run Windows on a mac when I need to, I can switch back with a clear conscience.

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^^ what he said

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For my purposes Windows is superior and probably will always be superior. My purposes are to play PC games with the best graphics possible. Vista=Better compatibility with more PC games.

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[quote=apollo_1444;475734]seems fair..i'm a pc user and i'll never switch.

i love hijacking threads :)[/quote]

you sure had me fooled :idea:

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If you are a gamer, I wouldn't ever suggest getting a mac. I would suggest getting laid though...

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Lmao

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[quote=toasty;475397]It's an HP a6030n, and I'm not able to get my wireless keyboard and mouse working. [/quote]

lmao I just checked the one I had been eyeing and its the same one toasty :lol:

Where and how much did you get it for ? Circuit City has it on sale for $719. What have been your experiences with it ? You using Media Center on it ? Have you peeped in ? How many available IDE / SATA slots does it have ?

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[QUOTE=Kamal;476487]lmao I just checked the one I had been eyeing and its the same one toasty :lol:

Where and how much did you get it for ? Circuit City has it on sale for $719. What have been your experiences with it ? You using Media Center on it ? Have you peeped in ? How many available IDE / SATA slots does it have ?[/QUOTE]

I got mine at Best Buy -- can't recall exactly what I spent, but it was in that ballpark. Honestly, I haven't had much of an opportunity to use it yet. It didn't come with recovery disks, so the very first thing I wanted to do -- before adding software, anything at all -- was to create a set of recovery disks. Unfortunately, I didn't have appropriate media on hand (I had DVD+RW, it needed DVD+R) and just got that last night.

My attempts to create those disks was met with limited success -- the first disk was created just fine, but the second failed three different times. I called HP, and they are just sending me recovery disks, which actually is better AFAIC. Pain in the ass, though.

I haven't had it very long, and the time that I have had it, I've been out of town, so I really haven't had much of an opportunity to dip around with it at all. For my purposes, though -- it is a secondary computer, primarily for surfing the web in my living room and MAME -- it has plenty of pep.

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thought this sucker came with a multi-dvd drive and lightscribe (where you can burn images/text on the front of a disc). Odd that it doesnt come with recovery OR Operating System discs considering it comes with Vista.

I briefly checked the "Computer Rating" thing that Vista has built into it and the CPU and Ram were both rated above 5.0 which is a very good sign considering both of those in my current setup are under 2.4, which means I can swap out my Video card to make this a pretty decent machine.

And since I will be using this mainly for my media center, I think its a decent buy.

What about noise ? Does it heat up and become a hair dryer ?

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it does come with lightscribe, which was one of the draws to HP for me. I can never find a fucking Sharpie when I need one, lol.

Haven't noticed any issues with heat or noise so far.

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cool, thanks for the heads up. Looks like I will be getting 2 new purchases by the end :p

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[quote=toasty;476564]it does come with lightscribe, which was one of the draws to HP for me. I can never find a fucking Sharpie when I need one, lol.[/quote]You shouldn't use sharpies on your discs. That is, if you plan on storing data for later usage. They will eventually bleed through the top layer and into the data. They sell the proper markers for cheap too. Something like $2 for a pack of four.

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^^really? Good to know, thx